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kozmicelly

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GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« on: December 18, 2012, 07:36:30 pm »
Hi Virtuali,

GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT's.

What I've done recently are as follows;

1. Changed the OS XP32 to Win7,64. (clean install on SSD)
2. Installed FSX+Accelerator.
3. Installed All FSDT airports but Hawiians which I don't have.
4. Installed UTX-USA and GEX-North America.

What happened then, (KLAX B68)

1. Follow Me Car goes through buildings to the gate.
2. Marshaller is standing about 10~20ft right from the yellow line.
3. Select KLAX B68 from FSX airport menu, then a aircraft sits on the right place, meaning on the yellow line.
4. Disabled UTX and GEX, but didn't work.
[Added] 5. At KFLL I got a GSX message saying "Could't find valid AFCAD data.....".

I know this seems to be happening because of other AFCAD installed.
But I didn't install any other sceneries except UTX and GEX.
I tried to check duplicate(s) by Airport scanner, it worked on XP32 but not on Win7, I got error messages.

What, do you think, is my option(s) to take to solve this problem?  

Thank you in advance.

Kozmic (RJTT)
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 09:18:08 pm by kozmicelly »

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 08:23:22 am »
Hi again,

Today I uninstalled every software relating to FSX and FSX itself.
And freshly installed only FSX, KLAX and GSX.
Tested the same procedure as my post above.
The result was the same, which means;

Using the airport menu of FSX, I went to KLAX B68 and tried to use GSX.
But GSX says something like "can't use GSX service in this position".

Then using GSX the gate menu, jumped to B68.
I could use GSX servies there, BUT I found my default A321 sitting about 45deg to the yellow line.

I can't guess what's the cause of this issue.

Any ideas?

Thank you

Kozmic

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 01:06:57 pm »
The "Customize parking position" option in GSX will tell you which AFCAD is in use by GSX.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 03:32:49 pm »
Thanx !!

I'll give it a try and report it back.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 03:50:52 pm »
At KLAX, the scenery file "APX16190.bgl" of FSX is used.

I know this file shouldn't be disabled, but I've tried it anyway.
As I guessed it, lots of error messege popped up, and the airport editor disappeared from the GSX menu.

What can I do ?

As for the airport scanner, there are 32bit version and 64bit version?
As I said in the first post, my AP Scanner gives me an error message.
Does this error message come from the wrong version?

If it's the case, how can I get another version?


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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 04:01:23 pm »
OK, it was so simple. :-\

Used it as admin, it worked.

Thank you.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 04:27:25 pm »
Sorry for posting so many times.

Airport Scanner shows no duplicate.
But the problem happens again.
Default A321 sits 45deg to the yellow line.

I'm at a loss. ???

What can I do?

Thank you.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 07:43:09 pm »
Airport Scanner shows no duplicate.

That simply means your duplicate is a duplicate that the FSX airport scanner can't find.

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But the problem happens again. Default A321 sits 45deg to the yellow line.

As I've said, ANY positioning problem it's ALWAYS a problem with a conflicting AFCAD. If the FSX Airport scanner can't find it, you must find it manually. Of course, my first reply already included a suggestion how to find it:

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The "Customize parking position" option in GSX will tell you which AFCAD is in use by GSX.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 08:13:24 pm »
As I wrote above,

 Quote : [At KLAX, the scenery file "APX16190.bgl" of FSX is used.
I know this file shouldn't be disabled, but I've tried it anyway.
As I guessed it, lots of error messeges popped up, and the airport editor disappeared from the GSX menu.]

Everything was all right on XP32bit, I wonder how come this happens on Win7 64bit. ???

If nothing can be done to solve this problem, I can only use FSDT KLAX or GSX, can't use both of them at a time.

Ummmmmmmmmm
« Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 08:27:04 pm by kozmicelly »

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 08:43:35 pm »
Quote : [At KLAX, the scenery file "APX16190.bgl" of FSX is used.

Which explains why everything is off, that's the default AFCAD.

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I know this file shouldn't be disabled, but I've tried it anyway.

It shouldn't be disabled because it contains default navaids and approaches.

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Everything was all right on XP32bit, I wonder how come this happens on Win7 64bit. ???

Windows 7 is not a problem, we all use Windows 7 and most of users too.

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If nothing can be done to solve this problem, I can only use FSDT KLAX or GSX, can't use both of them at a time.

As I've said, the problem doesn't have anything to do with GSX, if the positioning inside FSX is wrong, it's FSX that is being confused by the wrong AFCAD, way before and independently by the fact you install GSX or not. You will STILL have positioning errors, even without GSX.

It's possible you have a permissions account, which is causing problems with the scenery cache. Try this:

- Remove the folder C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX\SceneryIndexes.

- Execute FSX As Administrator. You should see FSX rebuilding its cache at start. Then, GSX will do the same to rebuild its own. Let it finish, exit from FSX, enter it again, and check if it's now using the correct AFCAD.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 11:10:14 pm »
I followed your instruction.

1. Delete the SceneryIndexes folder.
2. As administrator execute FSX.
3. FSX build SceneryIndes.

So far it went as your instruction.

4. Using default A321, went to KLAX.

I've seen so many times, before changing the OS, that GSX builds its own airport index, but this time GSX didn't build it.

I don't mean the cause of this trouble might be GSX or OS.
I just want to know the cause and the way to solve this problem.

It's 7:00 am, I've got to go to bed.
When I get up, I'll give it a try again.


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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2012, 10:19:25 am »
Continued :

The procedure you instructed didn't work today either.
Without any logical reasons, I installed about 20 payware sceneries except FSDTs (just because FSDTs take time to install), and tried the same procedure.
But the result was the same.

In the Couatl.log, there is a line, "Looking for scenery.cfg in C:/ProgramData/Microsoft/FSX/scenery.cfg"
and the list of the installed sceneries from the scenery.cfg.
But the list in the Couatl.log contains only FSX default sceneries, no payware sceneries.
Is this normal?

Just after the list, there are lines as follows;

Airport cache loaded
Addon GSX loaded
Loading addon ENBR
Addon ENBR not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KSFO
Addon KSFO not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KPHX
Addon KPHX not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Starting system monitors
Current locale is Japanese_Japan.932
SharedMemInterface connected
Loading aircraft data from Airplanes\C172
aircraftDb.py provides aircraft data with priority 2
Using aircraft data from aircraftDb.py
Section [contact_points] contains invalid data at entry point.4
Loading airport KLAS from E:/Microsoft Flight Simulator X/Scenery/0202/scenery/APX17190.bgl
Loading airport LOWI from E:/Microsoft Flight Simulator X/Scenery/0601/scenery/APX51150.bgl
Loading aircraft data from Airplanes\Flight One ATR 72-500
Using aircraft data from SimConnect
Loading aircraft data from Airplanes\CLS_BAe146_200
intelliscene.cfg provides aircraft data with priority 1
Using aircraft data from intelliscene.cfg
Loading aircraft data from Airplanes\Flight One ATR 72-500
Using aircraft data from SimConnect
Loading airport LFPG from E:/Microsoft Flight Simulator X/Scenery/0601/scenery/APX48140.bgl

All the Loaded airport were FSX default bgls.
The payware LOWI and LFPG are installed, but used ones are FSX default bgls.

Are there any cues in this log file?

Thank you.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2012, 11:08:09 am »
But the list in the Couatl.log contains only FSX default sceneries, no payware sceneries.

Are you running FSX in "Compatibility mode" maybe ? If yes, turn it off, because it's wrong and it cause such issues with all folders becoming wrong.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2012, 02:18:24 pm »
"Are you running FSX in "Compatibility mode" maybe ?"

I've checked it now.
No, not in "Compatibility mode".
I never touched that tab.

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Re: GSX seems to be working on other AFCAD than FSDT
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2012, 05:54:30 am »
This issue seems to come from 2 problems. It's just my guess.

Judging from the Couatl.log ;
1. GSX reads only default bgls from the scenery.cfg.
2. What makes GSX do so is the second problem.

I think if my guess 2 is solved, this issue will be solved.

What do you think about my guess (or deduction) ?