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toriu

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All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« on: February 06, 2012, 10:53:10 pm »
Sometimes when landing at various airports and I bring up the GSX panel it will show a list of parking options with "to small" listed in all options (I'm using the B747-400). I discovered last night that when I click the "Restart COAT" option the panel returns with acceptable parking options. I can find no reference to this in the manual and if its not in already it may be useful to include it.
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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 10:57:54 pm »
That's not normal and it shouldn't happen. Do you have an example of an airport/gate that didn't accepted the 747 initially, but accepted it after a restart ?

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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 11:44:36 pm »
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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 11:45:22 pm »
Frankfurt-Main (EDDF)

Which gate was reported too small, and then normal after a restart ?

toriu

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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 11:57:55 pm »
Can not remember the gate numbers there was a list of 4to5 all reading to small. After refreshing loads of options came up including gates and parking. I will try another flight now (EGLL to EDDF) and report back.
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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 01:17:16 am »
I too have gate to small issues. I have LH simulations LHDC Debrecen airport  for FSX. When I start my flight at parking 1 , (Ramp GA medium size as per FSX.) it says parking to small.  I was under the impression that if the gate/parking was listed as medium, it would be large enough for a A318 or B73-500.
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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 06:25:06 am »
That's not normal and it shouldn't happen. Do you have an example of an airport/gate that didn't accepted the 747 initially, but accepted it after a restart ?

I'm getting the "too small" message with the PMDG 747 at FSDT KLAX GATE 38.

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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 07:25:22 am »
I haven't tried the restart thing but do have a too small spot issue.

At KORD with a LevelD 767/300, using Delta Terminal #2 E concourse I can only pick gate E1, if I try to put the aircraft into any other spot I get the too small warning. Gate 1 is definitely too small for a 767.....but when I used GSX pushback it did a phenomenal job of getting me out of there and in a position to taxi.


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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 10:01:58 am »
I'm getting the "too small" message with the PMDG 747 at FSDT KLAX GATE 38.

You make it sound as if it was a GSX error, have you actually seen the Gate 38 at KLAX ? Are you sure you want to put a 747 there ?

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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 02:25:18 pm »
I'm getting the "too small" message with the PMDG 747 at FSDT KLAX GATE 38.

You make it sound as if it was a GSX error, have you actually seen the Gate 38 at KLAX ? Are you sure you want to put a 747 there ?

 What about Debrecen LHDC ? My question, if FSX list's the spot as Medium , does that mean it will fit a medium aircraft or am I looking at it wrong?
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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 04:43:20 pm »
What about Debrecen LHDC ? My question, if FSX list's the spot as Medium , does that mean it will fit a medium aircraft or am I looking at it wrong?

The Small, Medium, Heavy labels are just labels, what really counts is the radius in meters. Checked that airport (assuming you are referring to the FSX default), and the largest parking has a radius of 18.00 meters, so it can fit an A320 maximum. A 747 needs a parking of 33 meters minimum.

If you have an addon scenery with a more accurate AFCAD, or you edit the default one with editors like ADE or AFX, GSX will surely comply and let it park there.

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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 06:20:00 pm »
Is it normal to have the gates not labeled for FSDT airports? I just noticed that mine only really give numbers, and show neither Large, Medium, or Terminal information when in the freeflight area...

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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 06:54:52 pm »
They might not be labeled as "Gate", in some airports they are labeled as "GA Parking" to exclude default ground vehicles, but still as Small, Medium, Large.

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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 07:24:44 pm »
What about Debrecen LHDC ? My question, if FSX list's the spot as Medium , does that mean it will fit a medium aircraft or am I looking at it wrong?

The Small, Medium, Heavy labels are just labels, what really counts is the radius in meters. Checked that airport (assuming you are referring to the FSX default), and the largest parking has a radius of 18.00 meters, so it can fit an A320 maximum. A 747 needs a parking of 33 meters minimum.

If you have an addon scenery with a more accurate AFCAD, or you edit the default one with editors like ADE or AFX, GSX will surely comply and let it park there.
Actually it's LH Simulations Scenery, so I guess contact them and see what size they are using for the spots. I do get service with my Cheyenne , Twin Otter , Legacy and Citation X .
 
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Re: All Parking Options To Small Fix?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 07:28:39 pm »
Don't forget you can always check yourself using the ADE or AFX programs.

Or, you can just *trust* GSX...if it's saying a parking is too small, it's because it has compared the actual radius as specified by the designer in the AFCAD, against the wingspan of the airplane you are using.

Note that, this is exactly the same rule the default ATC uses: if a parking is too small for your airplane, the ATC will never give it to you.