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christiaan

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Change AFX Afcads with ADE
« on: December 11, 2012, 12:13:32 am »
Normally the FSDT Afcads are AP, now it seems that the newer Airports have a AFX afcad.

Can these be altered with ADE9X without getting issues.

I think that many people like me just want to alter gate sizes or change airline assignment codes.

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Re: Change AFX Afcads with ADE
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 09:36:01 am »
Normally the FSDT Afcads are AP, now it seems that the newer Airports have a AFX afcad.

Do you mean the FSDT AFCADs ? You are being mislead by the filename: fact that some of them contains AFX in their name doesn't mean we use AFX to create them. And, we never used ADE to begin with, not even in the past. All our released AFCADs are compiled from an XML source code made by hand, and compiled with the official BGLCOMP.EXE from the FSX SDK started from a command line. AFX uses its own internal compiler.

There's no such thing as a "safe to edit" AFCAD, from the point of view of the AFCAD, our AFCADs are 100% standard with nothing out of specs inside. Your editing options and if it's safe or not to edit and save back it's ONLY dependent on the capabilities of the editor you use, and they might change from release to release.

One issue ADE used to create was the fact that we usually use the "DeleteAllApproaches" parameter set to False, so the AFCAD will just use the approaches from the default AFCAD, which of course make sense, since there isn't any need to duplicate all Approaches data, if we haven't changed any of them. I don't know how the *current* version of ADE handle this but, with previous version you couldn't control this and it saved back the AFCAD with the DeleteAllApproaches set to True, so you lose all the approaches, since the scenery didn't defined any. It's being a while since I've checked ADE so, it's possible this has been fixed in more recent versions. And even if it hasn't, it's always possible to generate an XML, change the parameter by hand, and compile manually with BGLCOMP.

In any case, it's not a problem of the AFCAD itself (the command is 100% standard and makes a lot of sense to use) but of the editor you use. AFX, in fact, never had this issue in the first place.

Note that, by editing AFCADs, there's the risk you'll disrupt GSX customization, especially if you renumber or rename parking spots, and surely if you rename the whole file.

And, whenever you launch either the GSX or the Stand-Alone Addon Manager installer, it will download all the AFCADs of all your FSDT installed sceneries and if you launch a specific scenery installer, will download its own AFCAD too, if it finds the existing one has been modified and it's not bit-per-bit identical to our online version. It WILL make a backup of your existing file so, you will never "lose" anything, but you will have to replace your modified file each time you run one of those installers and, you *might* miss some small fixes we might release to our AFCAD.

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Re: Change AFX Afcads with ADE
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 12:26:24 pm »
Thank you for your quick reply.

Have most of your great Airports.

As a new user of ADE9X in FS9 & FSX, having used Lee Swordy's Afcad programme for FS9 in the past, some of your information is a

little bit over my head.

I have a modest knowledge of Afcads, so your advice if I am correct is to use the original FSDT Afcads and not alter them.

As I mentioned I only want to change the gate size or airline parking code, nothing complicated.

If I can alter is it best to use the original Afcad name and put this in the FSDT airport scenery folder or in the Addon Scenery folder.

Once again thanks for all your advice and quick reply.





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Re: Change AFX Afcads with ADE
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 03:32:01 pm »
I have edited FSDT AFCAD's (FS9 only) using ADE with no problems. I have had to always add the "fixes and approaches" from the "load stock data" tool. This needs to be done only once though. I always back up the original, just in case........ ;)

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Re: Change AFX Afcads with ADE
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 03:35:17 pm »
I have had to always add the "fixes and approaches" from the "load stock data" tool. This needs to be done only once though.

That's fine, but only for those sceneries that had the "DeleteAllApproaches = false", which is the majority anyway. Some of them have defined their own Approaches, surely KORD does because runways changed with the update. In these cases, you should not load the stock data. JFK does it too, but it comes with a separate AFCAD just for the Approaches so, it's not an issue at JFK.