Author Topic: 程式衝突  (Read 2181 times)

JJJ

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程式衝突
« on: December 14, 2019, 03:55:32 am »

Hello there
After I updated the PMDG, all the screens in the cabin are blank, all the keys are unavailable and I cannot start the cold cabin.
I also wrote to the staff of PMDG and P3D, they said that it has nothing to do with them, it is a problem with GSX, please help me to see thanks



Question signature:
  Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
  Application Name: Prepar3D.exe
  Application version: 4.1.7.22841
  Application initialization token: 59d67e95
  Error module name: api.dll
  Incorrect module version: 4.1.7.22841
  Error module level mark: 59d67f36 exception
  Status code: c0000005
  Exception condition displacement: 0000000000015604
  Operating system version: 6.1.77601.2.1.0.256.1
  Locale ID: 1028
  Additional Information 1: 4df1
  Additional Information 2: 4df16727dc39edd0dd79a54706d266f6
  Additional Information 3: 8ef7
  Additional Information 4: 8ef7a845ffcf6ff07b569cf907622216
 


Question signature:
  Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
  Application Name: Couatl.exe
  Application Version: 3.2.0.3997
  Application built-in count: 5b0e87ef
  Faulting module name: Couatl.exe
  Incorrect module version: 3.2.0.3997
  Error module reset: 5b0e87ef exception
  Status code: c0000005
  Exceptional displacement: 00056fa4
  Operating system version: 6.1.77601.2.1.0.256.1
  Locale ID: 1028
  Additional Information 1: 0a9e
  Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
  Additional Information 3: 0a9e
  Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
« Last Edit: December 16, 2019, 10:06:17 am by JJJ »

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Re: 程式衝突
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2019, 01:42:32 pm »
English, please?
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Re: 程式衝突
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2019, 01:08:44 pm »
After I updated the PMDG, all the screens in the cabin are blank, all the keys are unavailable and I cannot start the cold cabin.
I also wrote to the staff of PMDG and P3D, they said that it has nothing to do with them, it is a problem with GSX, please help me to see thanks

That's standard PMDG reply, which starts from a very wrong understanding how GSX works.

As explained so many times, GSX doesn't touch the airplane systems. It doesn't do ANYTHING to the airplane, it doesn't even try to close the doors, for the precise reason that touching or writing on the airplane variables could be dangerous, that's why WE DON'T DO THAT, and with the PMDG airplane this is especially true, since those are flagged as:

- Using a custom fuel system, so we don't try to "refuel" the airplane with GSX, but just wait the airplane to fuel itself

- Using a custom battery, so we don't try to "charge" the battery on a jetway

- Using a custom pushback, so we don't "raise" the airplane while pushing.

Those were the only possible case in which GSX could possible change the airplane state but, again, is NOT happening on any of the PMDG airplanes, because they have been flagged as such in the internal GSX configuration.

In addition to that, as you said yourself, the problem started only AFTER you updated the PMDG so, clearly, it cannot possibly have anything to with GSX.

What is really happening here, and what your log is showing is that:


The PMDG update has made the simulator crash, so you have a crash in Prepar3d.exe logged in the Event Viewer.

Since the simulator crashed, it couldn't send a proper "close/quit" command to all its own addons, so it MADE Couatl.exe crash


Couatl.exe, being an .exe, CANNOT crash the sim, it's simply not impossible. All PMDG airplanes, since they are made with multiple .DLLs CAN crash the sim instead. PMDG, as a developer, surely must knows this very well. So, your log show that something has made the sim crash, and Couatl.exe was brought down by it.


In addition to that, I find interesting that PMDG was so quick to point out it's a "GSX fault", when they haven't even noticed you are running P3D 4.1, when their site indicates 4.4 as a miniumum requirement for the 737 NGXu ( with 4.5 suggested ) and 4.4 as suggested for the 747. You haven't said what do you mean with "I updated the PMDG" so, it's not clear which product you are referring to.

In addition to that, you are ALSO running a VERY outdated version of GSX, which is indicated by your old build number for Couatl.exe, which is 3997, but the current version is 4281.

Normally, it's not even possible to get an old version of GSX by mistake, since the Live Updater will always install all the latest files, unless you chose to block it on install for some reason.

The current GSX, won't even run on P3D 4.1 either, just like the current PMDG products.