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amm693

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Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« on: October 27, 2017, 06:53:50 pm »
How to use Jardine Aviation Services and Hong Kong Airport Services in VHHH?

Also please add SATS to VHHH, thank you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATS_Ltd

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 11:57:35 pm »
How to use Jardine Aviation Services and Hong Kong Airport Services in VHHH?

I'm not sure what you are asking. They are surely assigned to VHHH, so they will appear as a choice in the GSX menu.

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2017, 03:09:06 pm »
How to use Jardine Aviation Services and Hong Kong Airport Services in VHHH?

I'm not sure what you are asking. They are surely assigned to VHHH, so they will appear as a choice in the GSX menu.
Some gate only shows Air Asia and Air China, but those airline's Ground service are done by HAS and Jardine
In VHHH only HAS, Jardine and SATS are running their business in Ground Handling, no need airline own support!

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 04:55:31 pm »
However, SATS oursource their pushback service to PAPAS HK
http://www.papas.com.hk/
Please kindly make according changes in the next release.
Thank you

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2017, 06:54:54 pm »
Also there are one more problem.
How to use those ground handling agent by entering airline code in gate settings?

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 02:17:14 pm »
Also there are one more problem.

What "problem" ?

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How to use those ground handling agent by entering airline code in gate settings?

By setting the airline codes in the scenery customization page, as explained in the manual.

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 03:02:27 pm »
How GSX identify the airline code I entered and show corresponding Ground Handling Agent for me?

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 03:11:19 pm »
How GSX identify the airline code I entered and show corresponding Ground Handling Agent for me?

Usually, the airline code is the ICAO code of the airline, but this is not always true, and it's almost never true for non-airline operators. To be sure of what code you are supposed to use in GSX, look at the SIM.CFG of any GSX objects, for example the FSDT_Staircase objects, and see the Couatl.atc_parking_codes = lines of every livery available. That would be the code you should use in the GSX parking customization page.

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 03:48:36 pm »
How GSX identify the airline code I entered and show corresponding Ground Handling Agent for me?

Usually, the airline code is the ICAO code of the airline, but this is not always true, and it's almost never true for non-airline operators. To be sure of what code you are supposed to use in GSX, look at the SIM.CFG of any GSX objects, for example the FSDT_Staircase objects, and see the Couatl.atc_parking_codes = lines of every livery available. That would be the code you should use in the GSX parking customization page.
So for example, If I want to enable all 3 GHA in VHHH (HAS,JASG,SATS)
I just add those code to GSX parking customization page and it will be fine?
btw, JASG=Jardine airport services?

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 03:55:34 pm »
So for example, If I want to enable all 3 GHA in VHHH (HAS,JASG,SATS) I just add those code to GSX parking customization page and it will be fine?

It should work, but not for Jardine, see below.

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btw, JASG=Jardine airport services?

No. Please re-read my previous explanation, where I said to check for the couatl.atc_parking_codes = line. If you did that, you would have notice that Jardine it's just "Jardine", not JASG. That would be the name of the texture, but that's not the parking code. The parking code is the couatl.atc_parking_codes, as I've said in my previous post.

But again, as I've said already in my first reply: ALL of them are ALREADY assigned to VHHH by default, so you shouldn't do anything, and they will just work.

Of course, I tried and, sure enough, I can see them at VHHH.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2017, 03:57:19 pm by virtuali »

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2017, 04:56:26 am »
I can only found JASG in FSDT_Baggage_Loader, not Jardine.
And I enter JASG to GSX parking customization page and it shows Jardine
« Last Edit: November 07, 2017, 08:20:34 am by virtuali »

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2017, 08:28:33 am »
I can only found JASG in FSDT_Baggage_Loader, not Jardine.

There's no atc_parking_code for JASG anywhere in that file. The atc_parking_code for Jardine is, as I've said, "Jardine". Check again.

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And I enter JASG to GSX parking customization page and it shows Jardine

No, it doesn't.

You see Jardine only because, as I've said already, it's assigned to VHHH (as "Jardine", obviously) in the default assignments that comes with GSX so, your addition of a non-existent code  ( JASG doesn't exists as a parking code, it's only the name of the TEXTURE folder!! ) hasn't resulted in any changes.

I can only repeat and confirm what I already said in my first reply:

- Both Jardine and HAS are assigned to VHHH in GSX without any changes required.

- SATS has been added in a recent update, following your report.

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2017, 02:40:32 pm »
There are nothing called"Jardine" in C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager\Simobjects\Misc   folder

And please kindly add PAPAS for push back truck as mentioned above as Jardine and SATS outsourced to PAPAS

Thank you for your help
« Last Edit: November 07, 2017, 05:10:02 pm by virtuali »

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2017, 05:12:12 pm »
There are nothing called"Jardine" in C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager\Simobjects\Misc

You don't seem to read my messages with enough attention. Nowhere I said you are supposed to find "something called Jardine" in the Simobjects folder.

I said:

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look at the SIM.CFG of any GSX objects, for example the FSDT_Staircase objects, and see the Couatl.atc_parking_codes = lines of every livery available.

Had you done that, you would have seen the correct code for Jardine is, as I've said, "Jardine". Not that this matters with your issue, since it's *already* set at VHHH!

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Re: Request: Ground Services in VHHH
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2017, 04:03:01 pm »
Anyway, thanks for your help and I just want as real as it gets.

Simply add PAPAS for SATS pushback