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Title: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: Hellfire on September 15, 2022, 10:33:29 am
Hello,

I tried to use the conditional embedded staircases feature with the BAE 146 from Just flight, but i encounter a problem that i don't understand (and maybe it's just something i don't get).

So, I ticked the "embedded stair" case, and i enter the following XML expression : (L:EXT_Door_stairs, bool), as "EXT_Door_stairs" is the ID for the stairs in the configuration files from the plane.

Here is the problem : Everytime I restart couatl (by quitting my game then restarting it, or just restarting couatl ingame), the "embedded stair" case is unticked, and the XML expression is gone.

But the thing that i don't understand is that, in the gsx configuration file for this plane (virtuali/airplanes/JF146-300/gsx), there's the line "embeddedStair = -2.19 8.38 -0.60 -3.69 8.47 -2.10 (L:EXT_Door_stairs_pos, bool)"

But nothing in the customization windows in GSX (ingame), and the custom rule isn't working exept if i tick the case again...

So is there i bug with it or is this something that I don't get ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: virtuali on September 15, 2022, 06:34:55 pm
If the rule is in the GSX.CFG, it will be used by GSX, the editor might have a bug showing the updated box, but what matters is the GSX.CFG file.

Note that, Conditional Embedded stairs only work on Departure, because on Arrival, when you select a gate it will always generate stairs, there isn't an extra question you could be asked, before selecting a gate, if you are going to use the embedded stairs or not.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: Hellfire on September 15, 2022, 06:45:15 pm
Okay but the thing is :
- My GSX.CFG says : embeddedStair = -2.19 8.38 -0.60 -3.69 8.47 -2.10 (L:EXT_Door_stairs, bool)
- The "embedded stair" part in gsx configuration ingame is empty

When i launch the game, I deploy the embedded stairs of the aircraft, then launch GSX and request boarding, and it stills send the GSX stairs, not recognizing the embedded staircase...

So even if my GSX.CFG file is correct, it is not detecting the conditional part.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: Hellfire on September 17, 2022, 09:42:28 am
Any update on this ?

I tried reinstalling GSX from scratch, but still not working...
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: Hellfire on September 19, 2022, 02:12:24 pm
Still no clue on what's going on ?
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2022, 02:33:47 pm
We'll check this, please understand not everything happen during weekends with the same blazing speed as usual.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: Johan217 on September 20, 2022, 09:50:58 pm
For what it's worth, for the Bae 146-100 all doors and the embedded stairs are recognized by GSX by default. I copied the code and I get the stairs working for the 146-300 too.

Code: [Select]
[exit1]
pos = -1.69 8.35 -0.60 3.00
code = (L:EXT_Door_pax_1L, number) 0 !=
name = FWD Pax
embeddedStair = -2.19 8.38 -0.60 -3.68 8.46 -2.08

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: theegg52 on October 02, 2022, 08:14:21 pm
I'm seeing the same behaviour. set custom check and gsx still sends stairs. embeddedstair line is present in gsx.cfg. gsx updated today 2/10/2022.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: theegg52 on October 05, 2022, 11:07:52 am
Same issue with the 3rd October update
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: theegg52 on October 06, 2022, 10:28:17 am
same behaviour with october 5th update. set custom check and gsx still sends stairs. embeddedstair line is present in gsx.cfg.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: HeicoH on October 06, 2022, 10:35:19 am
This is not an issue only for the BAe 146, but for a lot of aircraft with embedded stairs, especially the smaller ones.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: Johan217 on October 06, 2022, 11:09:13 am
You mean GSX is sending stairs to the front exit when deboarding? I am not seeing this (see screenshot in my earlier post) - either I get a jetway or nothing.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: virtuali on October 06, 2022, 11:21:12 am
You mean GSX is sending stairs to the front exit when deboarding? I am not seeing this (see screenshot in my earlier post) - either I get a jetway or nothing.

It's not very clear from your screenshot if that parking has a jetway. If it has, it's normal GSX won't use Stairs, Embedded or not, unless you configure the parking as not having a Jetway.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: Johan217 on October 06, 2022, 11:52:02 am
Screenshot was taken on the ramp (no jetway). When I park at a gate with a jetway, I get a jetway, no stairs . On the ramp I get nothing and the passengers use the embedded stairs. From my end all is working as I expect, so I was wondering what problem others are seeing.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: theegg52 on October 17, 2022, 08:37:30 pm
Just updated with the 17th October update and still seeing the same behaviour. if I tick the box for embedded stair, GSX does not provide stairs for that door. If I set a conditional check to test for the presence of stairs it works fine until I reload the sim then the command has disappeared from the config box and the embedded stair option is de selected. if i look in the gsx.cfg file then the line for stairs is still present but it is ignored by GSX.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: virtuali on October 18, 2022, 08:54:39 am
Just updated with the 17th October update and still seeing the same behaviour. if I tick the box for embedded stair, GSX does not provide stairs for that door. If I set a conditional check to test for the presence of stairs it works fine until I reload the sim then the command has disappeared from the config box and the embedded stair option is de selected. if i look in the gsx.cfg file then the line for stairs is still present but it is ignored by GSX.

If the rule is in the GSX.CFG, it will be used by GSX, the editor might have a bug showing the updated box, but what matters is the GSX.CFG file.

Note that, Conditional Embedded stairs only work on Departure, because on Arrival, when you select a gate it will always generate stairs, there isn't an extra question you could be asked, before selecting a gate, if you are going to use the embedded stairs or not.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: theegg52 on October 18, 2022, 12:11:57 pm
The line is present in the cfg but it is ignored by gsx. and upon loading into the aircraft the optioned for embedded stair is deselected. i have to go into the config and re enabled embedded stair if i want them to work otherwise gsx just sends stairs.
Title: Re: Conditional embedded staircases on the BAE 146
Post by: theegg52 on October 19, 2022, 05:14:29 pm
Done a bit of digging and found this line in the coautl log file. Found gsx.cfg file at C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali/Airplanes\JF_146_300\gsx.cfg
 error in gsx.cfg, section 'exit1', key 'embeddedstair': argument should be six numbers (two xyz points) or 0, with an optional expression. this is the section from my gsx.cfg
[exit1]
pos = -1.69 8.35 -0.60 3.00
code = (L:EXT_Door_pax_1L, number) 0 !=
name = L1 Door
embeddedStair = -2.19 8.38 -0.60 -3.71 8.46 -2.12 (L:EXT_Door_stairs, bool)