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Products Support => GSX Support MSFS => Topic started by: bmaising on August 30, 2022, 07:53:09 pm
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Hi,
Just want to ask if there is a central thread / topic, where in this waterfall / tons of informations the actual informations about the newest updates for GSX can be found (like a changelog or smth.)
Thank you for your good work, GSX is awesome!
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Information about all the updates can be found:
- By clicking the "Release Notes" button in the FSDT Installer
- In the Sticky thread of this same section:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,26826.0.html
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Do we still have to use the offline installer?
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Do we still have to use the offline installer?
Quoting from that thread:
This offline installer will make do until we'll be reasonably sure almost all Cloudflare nodes have been updated. You can recognize if YOUR node has, by simply noticing if the Live Update doesn't download anything if you run it after this offline installer. If this happens, it means your local Cloudflare node is now fully updated, so you don't need to use this anymore, just the Live Update.
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Well, this makes no sense, if there IS an update, no? Because then, the updater obviously WILL download some files, but how do I know if they are the correct ones and I do not have to run again the offline installer as last step?
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Well, this makes no sense, if there IS an update, no? Because then, the updater obviously WILL download some files, but how do I know if they are the correct ones and I do not have to run again the offline installer as last step?
As J've said, if you run the FSDT Live Update, and it doesn't download anything, you are fine with it.
If it downloads the same files over and over, it's because it KNOWS there's an update, but it's getting the old file from cloudflare cache, so it tries it again and again. This is telling your node might have a problem, so you need to download and install the Offline installer, which is kept constantly updated with the latest fixes from the Live Updater.
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As J've said, if you run the FSDT Live Update, and it doesn't download anything, you are fine with it.
Sorry, but now you cant be serious. If you upload an update tomorrow and I run FSDT Live Update and it does not Update anything, everything is fine? So how do I then get an update at all via FSDT Updater??
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As J've said, if you run the FSDT Live Update, and it doesn't download anything, you are fine with it.
Sorry, but now you cant be serious. If you upload an update tomorrow and I run FSDT Live Update and it does not Update anything, everything is fine? So how do I then get an update at all via FSDT Updater??
I agree ..... When my cloudfare node thinks its updated, it doesnt download anything.... until my node is being updated while the offline installer was updated my node thinks "im fine, im up to date".... i have never seen such a stupid update process before.... either its due to no other except you is using cloudfare (they know why) or cloudfare is just kidding FSDT Users.
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Sorry, but now you cant be serious. If you upload an update tomorrow and I run FSDT Live Update and it does not Update anything, everything is fine? So how do I then get an update at all via FSDT Updater??
When we release an update, the Live Update WILL obviously download something. As I've said, multiple times, the problem is AFTER we release an update, you run the Live Update again, and it tries to download the same files, over and over, THAT'S where you can tell you have a problem, because AFTER the first download, until the NEXT update we'll release, it shouldn't download anything.
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i have never seen such a stupid update process before.... either its due to no other except you is using cloudfare (they know why) or cloudfare is just kidding FSDT Users.
First, almost everybody uses Cloudflare. Maybe not so much in the flight sim world, and that's precisely why where there's a big release, servers usually crash and nobody is able to download anything.
Here, instead, everybody was able to download, our server never crashed ( which is why you can post on this forum ), someone might not got the latest files, but everybody will, eventually, and we have an OFFLINE installer as an alternative.
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And this means WHAT? Sorry, but this question can not be that difficult, no? For you to understand, my step by step procedure of yesterday, maybe you will then finally get what we are asking...
1. I checked the website here for the date of the offline installer. I realized that there is an update mentioned from 30.08.2022.
2. I run the FSDT Updater and it downloads a lot of stuff, because it also lists some UKR textures, I assume it is the update mentioned here from 30.08.
Now you come and tell me, that as long as FSDT Updater does NOT UPDATE anything, I am fine and I do not need the offline installer. What? How the hell should we ever get an update again then? Or do we really have to let FSDT Updater run, wonder about all the stuff it downloads, download the offline update and install it and run the FSDT Udpater again and if it is not downloading anything anymore, it is fine? But if it does, we then have to run the offline update again and do not touch the FSDT Updater anymore... until when?
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1. I checked the website here for the date of the offline installer. I realized that there is an update mentioned from 30.08.2022. 2. I run the FSDT Updater and it downloads a lot of stuff, because it also lists some UKR textures, I assume it is the update mentioned here from 30.08.
The OFFLINE installer doesn't contain everything. It would be an amazing feat if a 120MB installer could contain everything that comes in about 4-5GB of stuff, it only contains the crucial files that might cause a problem if missing, like code and sounds.
New models and liveries (like Ukranian ones ) are only online so yes, it was entirely normal that, after running the Offline installer, the Live Update downloaded something that's just not there in the Offline installer.
Now you come and tell me, that as long as FSDT Updater does NOT UPDATE anything, I am fine and I do not need the offline installer. What?
You still don't see to get it. I said, if you run the FSDT Updater once, it might download something (which in your case was the extra operators) but then, if you run it again, and you see it's still downloading again the same files, over and over, there you know you have a problem.
I don't know how better I can explain it, let's try a different approach:
- Run the Offline Installer
- Run the Live Update
- Run the Live Update AGAIN. Is still download the same things ? If yes, your local node is not updated, it not, you are fine.
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I find this also very confusing. Why not just make the update button clickable when a update exists, and greyed out and not clickable when you are up to date. Like every other Flightsim Software I use :o
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You still don't see to get it. I said, if you run the FSDT Updater once, it might download something (which in your case was the extra operators) but then, if you run it again, and you see it's still downloading again the same files, over and over, there you know you have a problem.
Of course I see your point, but it does still not answer how the heck we should know if the offline installer is still needed or not. Or do you expect from every user that he knows if the files being redownloaded by FSDT Updater over and over again are the ones covered by the offline installer or not?
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Of course I see your point, but it does still not answer how the heck we should know if the offline installer is still needed or not.
Exactly as I've said before: you run it twice, and you see it tries to download the SAME files, over and over.
Or do you expect from every user that he knows if the files being redownloaded by FSDT Updater over and over again are the ones covered by the offline installer or not?
They don't have to know or wonder. Just follow what I've said, if the SAME files are downloaded over and over, it's because the node doesn't have the latest ones yet.
Keyword here is "OUTDATED". Why they are "outdated" to begin with ? Because the cloudflare node already had an older version, maybe coming from the Beta, or possibly even before that, so it's might serve an outdated version. Outdated requires that file already existed on cloudflare.
But new files, like the NEW liveries from the UKR operators, which were never uploaded anywhere before, cannot possibly affected by this issue, since they just didn't exist anywhere on the cloudflare network so, it's 100% sure the *first* user that downloads them, will force cloudflare to download a version from our site, because it doesn't have it, but the next user on the same node will get the cached version. The only version, so it can't be outdated.
That's why you can trust that, after running the Offline installer, and the Live Updater and you don't see anything downloaded (other than *new* files, which I'm sure are fine), you can be sure your node is ok.
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The most convoluted update process known to man! Congrats!
The most simple update process known to man, when servers are working. And the most reliable when they aren't.
Because it KNOWS the servers are not serving the correct version. If it didn't, and it would "just" accept what's coming from the server, you wouldn't even KNOW a file you downloaded is not correct. Instead, now you know, and you can use the Offline installer.
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Hi, I still have problems to understand. I downloaded the "offline Installer" via mediafire. "Addon Manager". I install it and it copies files in the "programm files/Addon Manager" folder. But where is the Offline Installer now?
I only have FSDT Installer and FSDT Live Update. And I should first start the offline installer and then the Live Update/Installer. And is there a version number somewhere at my installation so I can see I am on the latest update?
Greetings
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But where is the Offline Installer now?
It's where you downloaded it. The Offline installer will be only useful until the next update, where we'll update the offline installer again.
A reason for having to run it again, is if you start the Live Update after it, and you notice that it continue to download the *SAME* files over and over, if you launch twice in a row. That will tell you your local node is not updated yet, so you need to run the Offline installer again, and nothing else.
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What is that ?
I`ve deinstalled the stuff after many issues with GSX PRO and now I reinstall this program. But the update installer run and run.
I spent 1 hour and have only unti now
Performing step 1of 37 GSXPRO 2%
below that line 13 % - increase verry slow....?
I repeat : 1 hour and 10 Minutes. My Internet connection ist 500 MBIT.... >:(
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Please clarify, has the installer already passed the initial download and install step, so it's just updating now ? Was the initial download slow as well ?
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Yes, after reinstallation I´ve click "...apdate all" and now after 1,5 h 14% in row below "perfoming step 1 of 37 " with 2% only
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Yes, after reinstallation I´ve click "...apdate all" and now after 1,5 h 14% in row below "perfoming step 1 of 37 " with 2% only
You can safely abort, it will continue from where it was left. Try this:
- Configure the antivirus and add the whole Addon Manager folder to the Exclusions.
- Restart Windows
- Restart the updater again.
If that doesn't work, try with a VPN, this one is very good and it's free:
https://protonvpn.com/
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Just to get it.
after I see there is an update, I download the offline installer from mediafire and install it.
then I run the FSDT Installer and it installs the update.
after that I run the FSDT Installer again and when it downloads nothing new I am fine and no more need for the offline Installer
but if it downloads the same files again I have to use the offline installer again when the next update arrives.
is it correct?
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1. I checked the website here for the date of the offline installer. I realized that there is an update mentioned from 30.08.2022. 2. I run the FSDT Updater and it downloads a lot of stuff, because it also lists some UKR textures, I assume it is the update mentioned here from 30.08.
The OFFLINE installer doesn't contain everything. It would be an amazing feat if a 120MB installer could contain everything that comes in about 4-5GB of stuff, it only contains the crucial files that might cause a problem if missing, like code and sounds.
New models and liveries (like Ukranian ones ) are only online so yes, it was entirely normal that, after running the Offline installer, the Live Update downloaded something that's just not there in the Offline installer.
Now you come and tell me, that as long as FSDT Updater does NOT UPDATE anything, I am fine and I do not need the offline installer. What?
You still don't see to get it. I said, if you run the FSDT Updater once, it might download something (which in your case was the extra operators) but then, if you run it again, and you see it's still downloading again the same files, over and over, there you know you have a problem.
I don't know how better I can explain it, let's try a different approach:
- Run the Offline Installer
- Run the Live Update
- Run the Live Update AGAIN. Is still download the same things ? If yes, your local node is not updated, it not, you are fine.
And here is where my problem starts (and maybe for all the others too) ...
If i had started with the OFFLINE installer (latest) it does not contain all the files ...
If i than run the Live Updater it may or maynot "UPDATE" files ...
If it does that over and over, there is a problem (with the node) ...
BUT it did download something and overwrites files !
How can I tell which version i have NOW ? (i can see file sizes change, esp. noticed for the couatl stuff)
Where to go from here ? Start with the OFFLINE installer again ??!!
Helpful would be a version.txt for the OFFLINE ADDON Manager and the "NODE" sided files. Or some other way to tell the version !!
Oliver
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And here is where my problem starts (and maybe for all the others too) ...If i had started with the OFFLINE installer (latest) it does not contain all the files ...
The only thing that should have been made more clear is that:
- The offline installer is recompiled and reuploaded EACH TIME we post something on Live Update. Something related to the program code, not extras like new liveries, which were *never* online before so, they couldn't possibly be affected by the "outdated" node issue.
- This goes without saying, each time you see an update in the Release notes or the Sticky thread about the Offline installer, means you must download it again.
So yes, the Offline installer DOES contain the latest files, but you must download it again when we release something new on Live Update.
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And here is where my problem starts (and maybe for all the others too) ...If i had started with the OFFLINE installer (latest) it does not contain all the files ...
The only thing that should have been made more clear is that:
- The offline installer is recompiled and reuploaded EACH TIME we post something on Live Update. Something related to the program code, not extras like new liveries, which were *never* online before so, they couldn't possibly be affected by the "outdated" node issue.
- This goes without saying, each time you see an update in the Release notes or the Sticky thread about the Offline installer, means you must download it again.
So yes, the Offline installer DOES contain the latest files, but you must download it again when we release something new on Live Update.
Dear Umberto,
this is all fully understood.
My point is, IF i run the live updater AND the NODE is not updated to the last version (repeatingly downloading files) it WILL leave the Install with posiibly outdated / old / mixed files,
Isn't it ?
At least thats what i am seeing if i compare a UPDATED Addon Manager Folder (from an OFFLINE ADDON MANAGER install) and the LIVE UPDATE version (from a not updated NODE)
I don't know, if this is clear now.
BTW the NODE(s) for Germany seems to be behind again !
I'd say, it is recomended to update ONLY via the OFFLINE Addon Manager and don't touch the LIVE Updater until this situation is sorted !!
NODE issues since day one >:(
Oliver
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My point is, IF i run the live updater AND the NODE is not updated to the last version (repeatingly downloading files) it WILL leave the Install with posiibly outdated / old / mixed files,
That's precisely why, if you notice that, you just run the Offline installer again, which includes a complete set of files which are all coherent between each other.
That implies you re-download the offline installer when you know we released a Live Update you can't get from...Live Update.