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Products Support => Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood FSX/P3D => Topic started by: Iceflyer on July 08, 2009, 01:28:01 pm

Title: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: Iceflyer on July 08, 2009, 01:28:01 pm: Hello

In this red Zone I have always an Crash with my Airplane. Fsx or addon Airplane does not make differentiated.
A new installation brought also nothing.

Can anyone help me please.

Regards Sascha Lienhard

FSX/Acceleration
Ultimate Terrain USA
REX
WOAI Traffic

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Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: skimmer on July 08, 2009, 09:14:06 pm: Are you starting your flight or landing there? What is your aircraft realizm setting in game? Do you crash anywhere else?
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: JFKpilot on July 08, 2009, 09:58:23 pm: May I ask why you have crash detection on in the first place?
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: Iceflyer on July 08, 2009, 10:41:28 pm: Hi

Thanks for the answer :)

Quote from: skimmer on July 08, 2009, 09:14:06 pm
Are you starting your flight or landing there? What is your aircraft realizm setting in game? Do you crash anywhere else?

I start the Fsx from Runway 27R,also a landing there...or i rotate from the 9L...always the same problem...crash :(
I do not see anything in the environment with which I colliding could. I have the strongest realizm settings.
The Crash is in the whole red Zone.

Grettings Sascha
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on July 08, 2009, 10:46:16 pm: Quote from: JFKpilot on July 08, 2009, 09:58:23 pm
May I ask why you have crash detection on in the first place?

Probably for realism, but I don't think that's the kind of crash he's talking about. ;D
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: virtuali on July 08, 2009, 10:49:10 pm: I've just tried now, both starting from 27R and landing on 27R, and there are no problems with the scenery.

It must be some other scenery in conflict. What kind of crash are you seeing ? AI crash, ground crash, water crash ?

You said you are using WoAI, which is using FS9 models: are you seeing the AI ? Because, if you have airplane shadows turned on, you might not see the AI, but you would still crash on it, if the crash with other airplanes is active.

However, since I had a chance today to reinstall a system from scratch, I was able to test on a brand new installed FSX with KFLL and nothing else so, I'm sure the problem is not the scenery.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: Iceflyer on July 09, 2009, 12:51:36 am: Hi

With crash i mean collision with an Object.

I deactivated ultimate terrain,the collision remain.

When i load the Plane (Pmdg MD-11 or others) on Runway 27R then the Plane crashed immediately. But there is no Wall or something. I crashed with an invisible Ghost ;D
Yes i see the AI Traffic..and the Shadows are off.

I have all your Airport..all function perfectly :)
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: virtuali on July 09, 2009, 09:53:03 am: I'm sorry, but I just can't replicate the problem: no crash of any kind here, and nobody else reported it.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: Iceflyer on July 09, 2009, 11:47:20 am: Ok thanks....the thing will separate sometime from alone ;)
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: skimmer on July 09, 2009, 10:30:16 pm: turn off (crash option).Line up just in front of bad area and press Y and slowly slew into it and press Y again to normal and see if crash occurs.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: Iceflyer on July 10, 2009, 05:04:16 pm: shure...this works normally :P
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: 777captain on August 20, 2009, 05:31:56 am: I'm having the same problem with the crash :( :( :(
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: virtuali on August 20, 2009, 12:03:02 pm: I'm sorry, but I can only confirm this is not happening, and nobody reported it except 3 people (KFLL had several thousand of downloads). You are probably all using the same other addon that is causing it.

Have you tried with no other scenery installed, and with a default airplane ?
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: 777captain on August 23, 2009, 08:34:03 am: I tried to reinstall and nothing happened. Virtuali, could you post the necessary afcad's here on the forums? Maybe that might fix the problem.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: virtuali on August 23, 2009, 10:22:53 am: Quote from: Iceflyer on July 09, 2009, 12:51:36 am
I deactivated ultimate terrain,the collision remain.

That would only means UT is not the problem. It's probably another scenery you have, then.

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When i load the Plane (Pmdg MD-11 or others) on Runway 27R then the Plane crashed immediately. But there is no Wall or something. I crashed with an invisible Ghost

I'm sorry but, as I've said, I've checked many times by now, and it doesn't happen. Right now, we have just you 3 guys, out of several thousands that downloaded KFLL so, you need to just find what you have in common that is installed on all your machines.

The first step to having even the slightest HOPE to fix something, is being able to reproduce it and, right now, I've been able to see this on my own machine.

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I have all your Airport..all function perfectly

Not all of our airports are located in the same place so, what is affecting KFLL, can't affect the others.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: 777captain on August 23, 2009, 07:42:06 pm: Hmm.. Let's see, iceflyer ans skimmer do you have the following addons installed:

1. AES
2. GE Pro
3. REX
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: skimmer on August 24, 2009, 03:47:16 am: Negative on those three. I am still puzzeled on that subject cause I have done a complete uninstall of all and that included FSX/ACC. Right down to the bone clean ,even spent hours looking for and deleting left over files to any flight sim related folders and reinstalled just FSX/ACC and then KFLL and what happened?, Collision!!!!! I have for my comp a intell 2.83 GHzX4quad processer,200GB hard drive,Intell crossfire motherboard with two 4870X2 AMD graphic cards and 10 GB memory. I am not doing the 3GB switch. Windows XP-SP3. Im not going to spend a lot of time on this matter again and again cause its my opinion there must be a hidden file that causes this . But if you want to Id be happy to exchange posting or help if I can. ;D ;D

PS. I have Flight 1 UT2
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: virtuali on August 25, 2009, 12:51:47 am: Found the problem, finally!

Sorry, it was really our fault: a file in the installer wasn't updated :o Many users have the correct file though, it depends when it was downloaded, that's why so few reported it.

To fix it quickly, download the attached file, and replace the file with the same name in the following folder:

FSX\Simobjects\Misc\FSDT_KFLL\model.KFLL_set04_3dsign

OR

You can simply download the 1.2 Updater (see the Sticky post above), or the Full installer, which have been both updated.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: skimmer on August 25, 2009, 01:43:33 am: NO DICE.BUMMER.NO WORKY. I deleted the file you indicated and replaced it with the one you provided then turned on FSX and started at FLL and taxied to the collision spot and BANG(collision). Thanks anyway. ::)
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: virtuali on August 25, 2009, 02:27:11 am: Sorry, but this is really not possible. You must have done something wrong installing it.

Please check the .MDL file you now have in FSX is 364.804 bytes in lenght. The old (wrong) one was 365.520, which is exactly the presence of the crash code.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: skimmer on August 25, 2009, 04:33:00 am: FSX\Simobjects\Misc\FSDT_KFLL\model.KFLL_set04_3dsign .The MDL But where do you get the bytes in length numbers? All mine reads is 357 KB. ??? I dont know how to open it as I have tried.

GOOD NEWS FLASH ;D ;D ;D IT WORKED,YES IT WORKS FINE. I dwnloaded file again,started FSX,let scenery rebuild,shut off FSX,rebooted,started FSX and yippy ky yaa. Thankyou for your preserverence. You stuck with it just for a few of us and that says a lot.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: Silverbird on August 26, 2009, 03:29:53 pm: Umberto I'm gonna try the file I also get the crash, I hardly ever use crash detection setting so I never noticed it before.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: Silverbird on August 26, 2009, 09:26:34 pm: Quote from: skimmer on August 25, 2009, 04:33:00 am
FSX\Simobjects\Misc\FSDT_KFLL\model.KFLL_set04_3dsign .The MDL But where do you get the bytes in length numbers? All mine reads is 357 KB. ??? I dont know how to open it as I have tried.

GOOD NEWS FLASH ;D ;D ;D IT WORKED,YES IT WORKS FINE. I dwnloaded file again,started FSX,let scenery rebuild,shut off FSX,rebooted,started FSX and yippy ky yaa. Thankyou for your preserverence. You stuck with it just for a few of us and that says a lot.

Yep replaced the file and so far it works good. ;D forgot to mention this is with the demo mode running.
Title: Re: Runway 27R Crash
Post by: 777captain on August 26, 2009, 11:18:10 pm: Thank you so much Virtuali! It works! ;D

This is why I have always said that FSDT's customer service is one of the greatest in the biz!

THANKS AGAIN FSDT, Looking forward to purchasing your next project and future projects!