GSX not showing up in addons

[ByteG]

Hi again,

these are my latest findings:

GSX 1.5 contains manager version 2.9.0.3 which works fine.
ZurichX 2.5.3 contains manager version 2.9.0.4 which is also working

When ever I try to install Standalone Addon Manager 2.9.0.5 or GSX 1.7.6 then bglmanx.dll fails to load.
So, apparently this version was built with either some additional settings or additional libraries.

Removing VC++ 2008 and reinstalling VC++2005 red. (either x86 or x64) did not help either.

I am running Windows 7/x64 (if that helps)

[virtuali]

Is it possible to download different versions of bglmanx.dll so that I could check which version doesn't work anymore?

That's precisely the reason why I've asked you to try the *Standalone* version of the Addon Manager, because it will install a different version of the .DLL compared to the full GSX installer, and that versions requires a slightly different version of the VC++ libraries, which is hopefully not missing/corrupted on your system.

I can try removing versions 2008. What about 2010 and 2012?

Just do exactly as told and TEST. THEN, if that doesn't work, we might take other steps.

[ByteG]

Is it possible to download different versions of bglmanx.dll so that I could check which version doesn't work anymore?

That's precisely the reason why I've asked you to try the *Standalone* version of the Addon Manager, because it will install a different version of the .DLL compared to the full GSX installer, and that versions requires a slightly different version of the VC++ libraries, which is hopefully not missing/corrupted on your system.

No, Standalone version is 2.9.0.5 which doesn't work.

As mentioned before, the latest bglmanx.dll that works is 2.9.0.4 which I've got from ZurichX 2.5.3.
I can install GSX 1.7.6 and then replace all files from ZurichX and it is ok (as long it is not .5 ).

[virtuali]

Try this, download the following file:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/4053/bglmanx.dll
and put it into the FSX root folder, overwriting the one that is already there and try if it works.

If it doesn't, try with this one instead:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/6195/bglmanx.dll

[ByteG]

Try this, download the following file:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/4053/bglmanx.dll
and put it into the FSX root folder, overwriting the one that is already there and try if it works.

If it doesn't, try with this one instead:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/6195/bglmanx.dll

Sorry, but neither of them work.
And if I copy back the previous version then it is ok.

[virtuali]

And if I copy back the previous version then it is ok.

Which is strange, because there's no difference between the current and previous version, they all use the same VC++ runtimes.

Try a different thing, turn off DEP in Windows:

http://www.fanhow.com/knowhow:Enable_or_Disable_DEP_in_Windows_7_27019737

[ByteG]

And if I copy back the previous version then it is ok.

Which is strange, because there's no difference between the current and previous version, they all use the same VC++ runtimes.

Try a different thing, turn off DEP in Windows:

http://www.fanhow.com/knowhow:Enable_or_Disable_DEP_in_Windows_7_27019737

Ok, tried that again. No difference.

I have provided pictures below in that order
bglmanx 4053, 6195 and returned to manager 2.9.0.4
Every time I have exited FSX so that new Simconnect log file was created

[virtuali]

I have provided pictures below in that order

It's still the same problem, you have a problem with your VC++ libraries. This can be very difficult to fix, and I can only confirm there are no difference whatsoever between the previous bglmanx.dll and the current one, with regard to the VC++ library version (and of course the Simconnect version).

You can use the old version but, it's very likely starting from our next products, nothing will work with it, so the problem of your system should be fixed. Since it seems to be entirely random, it's possible the next version of the bglmanx.dll might even work.

[dalewilley]

I can't get the COUATL half of the add-on to show up on FSX boot. It's in the exe.xml to load but never does. I have to manually start it by double clicking the exe file. Then when I select something from the GSX menu after CNTL+SHIFT+F12, the menu disappears, the FSX window loses focus for a second, and the COUATL menu item is gone from the Addons. Whatever I chose (followme, deboarding, etc) doesn't occur and double clicking the exe file doesn't restart COUATL.

Been through all the steps listed in the first post, turned on the panic log  and I don't see any .err file. Nothing in the COUATL log either that suggests a problem.

Running Windows 8 if that's a consideration

Dale

[virtuali]

Been through all the steps listed in the first post

If you really went through all steps discussed here, you should have produced a Simconnect diagnostic, what does the Simconnect diagnostic windows says ?

[ByteG]

It's still the same problem, you have a problem with your VC++ libraries. This can be very difficult to fix, and I can only confirm there are no difference whatsoever between the previous bglmanx.dll and the current one, with regard to the VC++ library version (and of course the Simconnect version).

You can use the old version but, it's very likely starting from our next products, nothing will work with it, so the problem of your system should be fixed. Since it seems to be entirely random, it's possible the next version of the bglmanx.dll might even work.

Hi Viruali,

I've been waiting for the new release of Addon Manager (2.9.0.6) to see if it would make any difference. Unfortunatelly for me, it doesn't.
If I just copy all BGLMAN*.* files to my FSX folder from version 2.9.0.4 it works as it should.

I have also found a program called Dependency walker. Some people say it doesn't work as it should anymore but I've checked both versions of bglmanx.dll for any differences.
But no luck there.

I guess I will have to stick with the working version for now.

But I have a request for you, if possible.
I assume that you have installed many updates (Microsoft or non-microsoft) and probably some new applications since version .4 in your development environment.
I hope that you still have the code of version .4 (or earlier).
If I is not too much trouble, can you rebuild bglmanx.dll version .4 but with the latest microsoft updates just to see if it still loads correctly?

Also, is there a posiblity to load bglmanx.dll independently of FSX just to check if load would fail and why.

Thank you.

[ByteG]

It's still the same problem, you have a problem with your VC++ libraries. This can be very difficult to fix, and I can only confirm there are no difference whatsoever between the previous bglmanx.dll and the current one, with regard to the VC++ library version (and of course the Simconnect version).

You can use the old version but, it's very likely starting from our next products, nothing will work with it, so the problem of your system should be fixed. Since it seems to be entirely random, it's possible the next version of the bglmanx.dll might even work.

Hi Viruali,

I've been waiting for the new release of Addon Manager (2.9.0.6) to see if it would make any difference. Unfortunatelly for me, it doesn't.
If I just copy all BGLMAN*.* files to my FSX folder from version 2.9.0.4 it works as it should.

I have also found a program called Dependency walker. Some people say it doesn't work as it should anymore but I've checked both versions of bglmanx.dll for any differences.
But no luck there.

I guess I will have to stick with the working version for now.

But I have a request for you, if possible.
I assume that you have installed many updates (Microsoft or non-microsoft) and probably some new applications since version .4 in your development environment.
I hope that you still have the code of version .4 (or earlier).
If I is not too much trouble, can you rebuild bglmanx.dll version .4 but with the latest microsoft updates just to see if it still loads correctly?

Also, is there a posiblity to load bglmanx.dll independently of FSX just to check if load would fail and why.

Thank you.

Hi Virtuali,

it saddens me that you were not able to reply to my last post in almost 2 weeks.

Since then I have taken extreme measures trying to fix that. By that I mean that I have reinstalled everything starting from Windows 7 64x ( with formatting c drive) - only due to bglmanx.dll error.

Currently I have installed:
- Windows 7 64 + office 2010
- TrackIR software
- Saitek drivers
- FSX + Acceleration
- FSX SDK (all 3 packages)
- GSX + latest addon manager
- FSUIPC + Linda
- Accufeel
- FSRecorder
- Some 3rd party aircrafts (iFly 737, Citation Mustang, Carenado mooney)
- and of course all x64 and x86 VC++ 2005, 2008, 2010, 2012 libraries

The result is the same. bglmanx.dll fails to load due to missing dependencies.

I understand that I could have messed something up with the last installation.
But if bglmanx.dll 2.9.0.6 fails to load on clear Win7/FSX installation and there was never an issue with version 2.9.0.4 there must be something that you have changed since than which conflicts with my configuration.

So, I would really appreciate your help here.

Thank you.

[virtuali]

The result is the same. bglmanx.dll fails to load due to missing dependencies.

That's not much to be said, than haven't been already said. bglmanx.dll requires only TWO external dependencies:

- Simconnect, which comes with FSX and is updated with SP1, then SP2. We require the version that comes with SP2 (or Acceleration)

- The VC++ 2005 runtimes SP1 redistributables. These are installed by countless of Windows products, are of course installed by any of our installer.

So, under normal conditions, it's not possible to "forget" something, because Simconnect is installed automatically by FSX, and the VC++ 2005 runtimes are installed by FSX itself and by our installers too.

Problems happens when something goes *wrong*. Since it's unlikely that Simconnect went corrupted, both because it's used by FSX only and is not freely redistributable, so it has less chances to be corrupted by another product (opposite by the VC++ runtimes, that can be installed and/or upgraded by everything), and if Simconnect was broken a lot of other FSX addons wouldn't work, the most likely problem is the VC++ runtime.

This might be simply corrupted/missing, but might even not work, just because there's another FSX addon that is causing a conflict and for some reason the Side-by-side system (that allows more than a single version of the library to run at the same time) might not work.

Unfortunately, troubleshooting this sometimes can be more complex that reinstalling Windows from scratch.

The possible solution has been already discussed several times:

- Remove EVERY VC++ runtime in your system.

- REPAIR the FSX SP2 install. This will reinstall only the version that FSX needs

- Download and install the Stand-Alone Addon Manager, which will reinstall only the version IT needs.

[sondac331]

Plz i have followed all your steps and gsx didnt work gsx was working with me at the old version when you download the new it didnt work the old version was working fine plz tell me how i can fix it i can see add ons at top but cant see coutl addon manger / addon manger i dont have antivirus i tryed to fix it while firewall OFF and got nothing plz help me i want to conti. using it

[virtuali]

Don't post twice, and try to write in a more understandable manner. This thread here indicates all known causes for the missing menus:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,8428.msg68872.html#msg68872