Fsx to crash AGAIN !!!!Help anyone

[mrose]

I have tried loading the standalone addon manager however I get a fatal error and fsx crashes after 20 to 30 min. When i uninstall FSDT GSX KORD and KLAX program runs for Hours 10+ no errors I have unistalled all addons and removed the Folder Is the a specific order to install and get theses to Work anyone plz Help.

[virtuali]

Without knowing exactly WHAT is crashing, you just can't say the crash (ESPECIALLY after 20-30 minutes of flight) is caused by anything related to our products. When you are flying, away from an airport, our software and sceneries don't do anything.

If you go into the Windows Control Panel, under the "Administrative Tools" section, the Windows Event Viewer will have your crash details recorded. Look in the Application log for crashes related to either FSX happened recently, select the crash details, and see what was the error. This could give an hint what really crashed.

[mrose]

Well its funny that when they are installed it encounters a fatal error when loading scenery around the 83% mark every time. However when i uninstall the soft ware it runs and loads fine PLEASE dont get me wrong I want this software that I spent my hard earned money on to run. Can you make any sugestions that might help I did Say PLEASE Plus I asked what order to reinstall your products which you did'nt answer. I have updated all drivers on my system with no Luck. I will attempt to find the error log tomorrow upon returning home .
Respectfully
Lt Michael Rose

[virtuali]

Can you make any sugestions that might help I did Say PLEASE

If you go into the Windows Control Panel, under the "Administrative Tools" section, the Windows Event Viewer will have your crash details recorded. Look in the Application log for crashes related to either FSX happened recently, select the crash details, and see what was the error. This could give an hint what really crashed.

Plus I asked what order to reinstall your products which you didn't answer.

I obviously haven't because, before having a look of your application log, which shows what has crashes, you just can't say the problem is anything related to the scenery, so the installation order could matter.

And no, the fact that uninstalling the scenery "fixes" the problem, doesn't mean it has anything to do with the scenery either. If it's a problem with an AI, you are easily mislead into thinking this, because by removing the scenery, that AI might not appear anymore, because the default AFCAD has different parking assignment that will control which (and, most importantly, how many) AI will appear so you can be easily mislead thinking the problem has anything to do with the scenery, because uninstalling it seems to fix it.

But again, before drawing any conclusion, we MUST check the log first.

[mrose]

Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          11/14/2012 10:02:34 AM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      AREA51
Description:
Faulting application name: fsx.exe, version: 10.0.61637.0, time stamp: 0x46fadb14
Faulting module name: g3d.dll, version: 10.0.61637.0, time stamp: 0x46fadb58
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000ba79f
Faulting process id: 0xafc
Faulting application start time: 0x01cdc26b82ea841c
Faulting application path: D:\Microsoft Flight Sim X\fsx.exe
Faulting module path: D:\Microsoft Flight Sim X\g3d.dll
Report Id: 51aa44ec-2e6c-11e2-88e0-00241dd3a022
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Error" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>100</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-11-14T15:02:34.000000000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>2532</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>AREA51</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>fsx.exe</Data>
    <Data>10.0.61637.0</Data>
    <Data>46fadb14</Data>
    <Data>g3d.dll</Data>
    <Data>10.0.61637.0</Data>
    <Data>46fadb58</Data>
    <Data>c0000005</Data>
    <Data>000ba79f</Data>
    <Data>afc</Data>
    <Data>01cdc26b82ea841c</Data>
    <Data>D:\Microsoft Flight Sim X\fsx.exe</Data>
    <Data>D:\Microsoft Flight Sim X\g3d.dll</Data>
    <Data>51aa44ec-2e6c-11e2-88e0-00241dd3a022</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

this is what error code i am getting the system is locking up in flight not sure whats causing it but it does go away when i uninstll fstd software

[virtuali]

Faulting module name: g3d.dll, version: 10.0.61637.0, time stamp: 0x46fadb58

this is what error code i am getting the system is locking up in flight not sure whats causing it but it does go away when i uninstll fstd software

The G3D.DLL it's a very well known crash, and it doesn't have anything to do with our product, if only marginally, meaning if there's some kind of bug in your video driver or a problem in your FSX video settings which is affecting one of our (otherwise 100% FSX compliant) scenery or GSX objects, you get the error, and you are mislead thinking it's something *caused* by our software, when in fact it's caused by video drivers and/or FSX settings/tweaks which is affecting our objects, which use more graphically complex settings and features (like multiple bone animations, advanced shaders, etc) which requires your video drivers not having bugs and your FSX setting and tweaks applied correctly.

Sometimes it's fixed by installing the very latest FSUIPC version, but if that doesn't fit it, you'll have to work on your video drivers and/or FSX settings.

[Paul J]

Hi, MRose.. I read your original post, and then you secondary posts: you initially said "crash" then that became "hanging" in your later post.. It's important to understand whether this is a crash to the desktop, or the sim simply stops, (hangs) but the sound continues..  Can you expand on the symptom a little, please?

[mrose]

I believe the crash I was refering to is a BSOD not directly related to the G3d.ddl error i am having. JUST want to clarify FSDT products seem to be running fine however slight problems with animation ground crews acc move but dont walk if you know what i mean. i dosent really hang. What is the FSUIPC that you refer to

[virtuali]

slight problems with animation ground crews acc move but dont walk if you know what i mean.

This has been discussed on the forum several times and, of course, is not really a GSX problem. The issue is, you are seeing the animation from too far away, or with a too wide zoom setting. FSX automatically disables all animations for an object after a certain viewing distance (especially for small objects like people), likely to save fps, so you see the people moving (because *we* move it from GSX), but without the walking animation, because FSX automatically turns it off.

Nothing of this could of course cause the PC to "hang" instead, nor it's an indications of some kind of problem with GSX. It's normal, and it can be fixed by simply zooming in or going closer with your viewpoint to the object.

[Paul J]

Aaaahh.. I don't suppose there's a chance you got the BSoD's error message, did you? If not - go here, download and install this, "BlueScreenView, by NirSoft. http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html They have a slew of great utilities that make PC life SO much easier! When you run it - it will read the memory dump from the last BSoD, so - go to it!

Meantime - http://forum.simflight.com/forum/30-fsuipc-support-pete-dowson-modules/ Pete Dowson is real nice guy who built a program that will insert itself between your controllers and FSX, allowing you to connect multiple stick, switches, keypresses, and other addons - eventually you could use it to build a full cockpit. An amazing piece of software. Amongst other things, it traps a particular g3d.dll error, and will also smooth out the odd, strange gusty wind! Most long-time simmers will buy the payware version, and never look back. It's like TrackIR - once you've tried it - you don't want to fly without it.  

All the best,

pj

[mrose]

I was not zoomed when the animation error was happening i was at klax in a learjet 45 in virtual cocpit not sure why it happend I do love FSDT software I believe some of the loading problems might have been caused by ORBX software causing problems with Yours went back to default scenery in there manager and fsdt all runs well except for the annimation issue ill see if it happens again
Cheers thanks again
Lt Michael Rose