Again: push back direction, please

[Guenseli]

Hello,

again I'd like to beg you to add to the pushback direction just a little note:

left (nose right)
right (nose left)


Seems not to be a big deal, but would help me a lot 


many thanks!
Günter

[Bruce Hamilton]

That could be more confusing, depending on what view you have active.  If you're in spot view looking from the nose towards the tail, left (nose right) would move your aircraft right (nose left).

[Guenseli]

ok, but is not less or more confusing then it is actually.

Then make it bullet proof:

left (pilots view: nose right)
right (pilots view:nose left)


I think there's no more confusiong, could it?

[marvic]

ok, but is not less or more confusing then it is actually.

Then make it bullet proof:

left (pilots view: nose right)
right (pilots view:nose left)


I think there's no more confusiong, could it?

Pilots sit on the left side and co-pilots sit on the right. Push left means the tail will go left, (the left side of the aircraft) not seeing what is so confusing about that.

[robertorizzo]

The problem arise from our old AES habit.
I find it a bit annoying.
Since years we have used the opposite.
You know "do not ask the old teacher to play the new song..."

[mseiwald]

Which is actually the right Way...in Real Aviation you also talk about pushback facing North/South/.... Not tail North/South.... I would also prefer it to actually ask for the direction you want to taxi instead of the direction your tail goes.

[pete_auau]

i get  option  in the push  back   it  comes up left  or  right  depending  on the  airport  iam  at

[Guenseli]

And I'm confused, because I'm used to PMDG habit which uses the nose left/right.


But the conclusion here is (in my opinion) that there is confusion, so why not serving both ways, which could be easily done by just adding a little text ...

[virtuali]

As explained in other thread already, we chose to conform to the FSX standard ( Left Pushback in FSX would end up with the airplane nose pointing to the right ), because since GSX works with all default airports, and most of the default airports have their Left/Right preferences, it was best to stick to that standard.

[caffman263]

Which is actually the right Way...in Real Aviation you also talk about pushback facing North/South/.... Not tail North/South.... I would also prefer it to actually ask for the direction you want to taxi instead of the direction your tail goes.

I've heard it both ways, "Push approved, tail (left/right/N/S, etc)" "Push facing..." Or sometimes more specific directions like "Push onto C, face East". Depends on the controller and how they say it, at least in the US there isn't any standard phraseology that I know of and many airports have separate "Ramp Control" that isn't staffed by actual ATC's, but rather airport ops or airline employees. They can sound... interesting...

[flapsup]

Where I come from it goes:
"Gidday Mate, Hey Captain, hold me fosters will ya, and watch this maneuver"

[drayton_k]

I dont see what the problem is here. As set now "Pushback Left or Right" as explained in the manual seems quite straight forward to me and not confusing at all. Then I never used AES I guess!

[toriu]

                                 
                             
            Gate
              l
              l
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              l
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   -->              <--
 
  Left             Right

[Guenseli]

Seems the discussion's going on: seems it isn't clear to everyone 



I do not care what is now better or realistic or FSX conform ...
I was simply begging Umberto just to add in brackets "node left/right" to make it absolutely 100% clear for everyone, at least for me.

I do not think it is a big technical problem to do that, so it's just about if he wants it to do or not.
Hopefully he will one day, but of course bigger problems are around 

[Gerwil]

I changed the soundfile; Capt'n, from this position where should the nose be heading, to left or right after pushback?

  well, actually thats what i ask myself everytime i have to decide 1 or 2 key