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Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« on: January 11, 2012, 12:24:04 am »


There is my video.  I did mention FS Dream Team!  I need you flight simmers to help me out here so i can get something that is worth the money.
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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 02:53:35 pm »
I would add a couple gigs of RAM and ditch Vista for Windows 7, also making sure that FSX is running at the highest resolution your graphics card is capable of will help.  You'll never get 50+ frames consistantly, don't even try.
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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 03:35:27 pm »
No.  Im not spending any more money on the computer in my signiture.  Im getting a brand new computer...  And i will try for 50+ FPS.
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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 03:59:41 pm »
No.  Im not spending any more money on the computer in my signiture.  Im getting a brand new computer...  And i will try for 50+ FPS.

Hello unfortunately you won't get 50fps in heavy airports in the air and in other places yes you can get 50fps, I did this config really fast http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DUTTU this is sort of what I would get if I was buying from cyberpower of course if you build yourself it would be cheaper depending on the parts. to me anything above a Intel I5 2500k will be good for fsx/fs9 overclocked if you don't overclock you will not see a high improvement so it has to be at least at 4.0 the overclock on the p.c to really see a difference in big detailed airports. you would be ok with the regular default clock speed of the chip but like I said you will see more higher fps if the cpu is overlocked to around 4.0 and above.










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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 05:30:11 pm »
We just so you know, Im going with an Intel I7 3.4GHz or more...  Im going to get 16GB ram, 2x ATI 6950 2GB onboard ram, 1000 watt power, liquid cooling, and the Cooler Master HAF-X tower case.  Im going to have all the fans including a HDD cooling fan.  For the boot drive, im going with a 32GB kingstone SSD.  The data HDD that will have FSX and FS9 on it will be a SATA 2TB 3.5" 7,200RPM HDD.  Along with the amount of Power i need im getting a 1200 watt UPC (uniteruptible power suppy).  Again i have a budget of $3 grand and no more.  I saw that i might not get 50+ frames at places with alot of traffic and airports like New York City JFK and LGA...  I now want to know if i can keep it above 28-30FPS...
Final configeeration i build yesterday, was $2345.00
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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 06:34:04 pm »
I now want to know if i can keep it above 28-30FPS...

You can do that with what you've got, if you set it up right... as in keeping all your sliders at realistic levels and not fully maxed out.  You've got two cores more than I do, and I can get frames close to 30.
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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 12:33:55 am »
We just so you know, Im going with an Intel I7 3.4GHz or more...  Im going to get 16GB ram, 2x ATI 6950 2GB onboard ram, 1000 watt power, liquid cooling, and the Cooler Master HAF-X tower case.  Im going to have all the fans including a HDD cooling fan.  For the boot drive, im going with a 32GB kingstone SSD.  The data HDD that will have FSX and FS9 on it will be a SATA 2TB 3.5" 7,200RPM HDD.  Along with the amount of Power i need im getting a 1200 watt UPC (uniteruptible power suppy).  Again i have a budget of $3 grand and no more.  I saw that i might not get 50+ frames at places with alot of traffic and airports like New York City JFK and LGA...  I now want to know if i can keep it above 28-30FPS...
Final configeeration i build yesterday, was $2345.00
And if you want decent AA, ditch the ATI for a GTX 500 series. 50 FPS ? Your dreaming.

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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 05:24:04 am »
Ok.  Im uploading a video of my new expectations are and again i would like some help/advise...  Here is a quick config i put together on cyberpower PC:

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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 05:04:10 pm »
No.  Im not spending any more money on the computer in my signiture.  Im getting a brand new computer...  And i will try for 50+ FPS.

Did you ever get the computer to do 50+ FPS (consistently)? If you do (and you never will) you could patent the setup and start selling it.

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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 12:06:05 am »
I don't understand why you are trying to waste 3,000 on a computer that has a dual 590GTX 3gb when FSX can only recognize one. Not to mention that your not having the factory overclock your i7 for you.

My advice, save your money. Drop the 2 cards you only need one. Let them OC your processor and get DDR3 with 1600Mhz or above, you don't need more than 12GB. Your not going to see 50 fps in FSX with all the addons that you want to use, I think you are blindsided by all of the videos on youtube, that are heavily edited and sped up achieve that feel high frames.

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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 01:16:08 am »
I don't understand why you are trying to waste 3,000 on a computer that has a dual 590GTX 3gb when FSX can only recognize one. Not to mention that your not having the factory overclock your i7 for you.

My advice, save your money. Drop the 2 cards you only need one. Let them OC your processor and get DDR3 with 1600Mhz or above, you don't need more than 12GB. Your not going to see 50 fps in FSX with all the addons that you want to use, I think you are blindsided by all of the videos on youtube, that are heavily edited and sped up achieve that feel high frames.

I spent 1100 bucks on my rig,
i7 2600k OCd 4.2 Ghz
GTX560ti 1GB
8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
750GB HD.
I droped the idea of 2 cards because of that advise from you and others on other post i have made over at Aerosoft and FlyTampa.  I basically started this thread on here, Aerosoft, and FlyTampa.  Ive gotten more feedback on FT though.  Oh well.  Yea i will definitly drop one of the cards because first of all, im not going to spend $3 Grand.  Thats my limit that includes Taxes.  Il have the Factory OC my CPU.  I also rather go with AMD ATI Radeon series cards simple because in the past, i had less issues with them then i did with Nividia GeForce cards.  Il take your advise into account.  Thanks.  Still im 4.5 months away from getting it.
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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 01:34:35 am »
I don't understand why you are trying to waste 3,000 on a computer that has a dual 590GTX 3gb when FSX can only recognize one. Not to mention that your not having the factory overclock your i7 for you.

My advice, save your money. Drop the 2 cards you only need one. Let them OC your processor and get DDR3 with 1600Mhz or above, you don't need more than 12GB. Your not going to see 50 fps in FSX with all the addons that you want to use, I think you are blindsided by all of the videos on youtube, that are heavily edited and sped up achieve that feel high frames.

I spent 1100 bucks on my rig,
i7 2600k OCd 4.2 Ghz
GTX560ti 1GB
8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
750GB HD.

Do you have a lot of addons? What kind of fps do you get? Also, did you buy that out of the box? Sorry for the questions, I too am in the market for a new rig.
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Re: Help! I need help picking a New PC to run FSX at 50fps+!
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 02:23:09 am »
I don't understand why you are trying to waste 3,000 on a computer that has a dual 590GTX 3gb when FSX can only recognize one. Not to mention that your not having the factory overclock your i7 for you.

My advice, save your money. Drop the 2 cards you only need one. Let them OC your processor and get DDR3 with 1600Mhz or above, you don't need more than 12GB. Your not going to see 50 fps in FSX with all the addons that you want to use, I think you are blindsided by all of the videos on youtube, that are heavily edited and sped up achieve that feel high frames.

I spent 1100 bucks on my rig,
i7 2600k OCd 4.2 Ghz
GTX560ti 1GB
8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
750GB HD.

Do you have a lot of addons? What kind of fps do you get? Also, did you buy that out of the box? Sorry for the questions, I too am in the market for a new rig.
I use FS9 and FSX.  I use FS9 alot more though.  Right now i only use FSX for Multiplyer online.
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