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UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« on: June 19, 2011, 10:18:43 pm »
I find it interesting that this RN video shows an HUD view (from Helmet Mounted Display I presume) for carrier landing practice on their simulator. It seems the F-35C is not going to have an AoA Indexer as a backup device. The cockpit and controls are only similar (I think) to an F-35C but early days for them. At moment I don't have sound on computer so I'm hoping what they say is worthwhile, Steve Long (shown) is an F-35 test pilot.
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How to land on an aircraft carrier without jump jets 16 June 2011 | UK  By
Will Inglis

http://bfbs.com/news/uk/how-land-aircraft-carrier-without-jump-jets-48705.html

[Best Quality VIDEO on page above IMHO compared to Utube version below]

"Work has started on how to fly fast jets from Britain’s next generation aircraft carriers.

The decision was taken late last year to fly conventional catapult launched planes from the ships instead of more expensive harrier style aircraft that can land vertically.

But that has caused all kinds of headaches, and the designers have resorted to a simulator at BAE System's aircraft factory at Warton to sort them out.

By the time the Queen Elizabeth class carriers enter service it will be more than four decades since British pilots have operated from a conventional carrier – and that means lots of key skills have been lost in the mists of time."
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Same Video as above now an Utube Video at lesser quality showing UK RN FAA flight simulator for F-35C training:



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Re: UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 11:10:25 pm »
Interesting he had hands on stick during launch and not using ACLS for landing.

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Re: UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2011, 01:38:57 am »
Pilots will want to deck land manually from at least the quarter mile mark, as they do today, to keep up their skills. Auto landings are for emergencies, foul weather or tired pilots at night after long missions. Other threads have info on this point.

I don't believe the simulator we see is 100% accurate from what I have seen of other US based F-35 simulators - which more or less mimic the real thing - but I could be wrong as we see only vague shots of the controls and panels. We see a pilot hand on stick (but I do not have sound) and it does not appear to be at launch and at other times during launch we don't see inside. I could be wrong. Remember I have not seen in real life either the aircraft or any simulator and can only go on what I see online in videos and photos.

My reason for posting the video / info was to show the HUD view as shown; which to me is interesting, as I like to fly that way with the SLUDGE Hornet also. Sadly the freeware Dino Cattaneo F-35A has a HUD which will not display the AOA properly at Optimum AoA (even though it is the A model flying approaches at faster airspeed).
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Re: UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 03:14:25 am »
Here is the link to some info referred to above about 'auto landings'. Search for 'ACLS' or other key terms will bring a bunch of good info also: [scroll down page]

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=4138.msg38675;topicseen#msg38675

"...naval aviator who commanded a carrier battle group before he retired. He said:
     True hands-off landings are indeed possible. In fact, a third to almost half of all carrier landings are hands-off landings. Patterns for autolanding are extended and final approach to the deck typically does start up to a mile away from the ship's stern.
     In daytime with good weather, pilots almost always land the plane themselves, though...."
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Re: UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 06:41:49 pm »
...Sadly the freeware Dino Cattaneo F-35A has a HUD which will not display the AOA properly at Optimum AoA (even though it is the A model flying approaches at faster airspeed).
What do you mean "HUD which will not display the AOA properly at Optimum AoA" ? I set the AOA bracket so that optimum AOA is at 10 degrees AOA.

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Re: UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 10:40:17 pm »
neutrino, I don't have access to the sim at moment. At a reasonable landing weight when attempting to fly Optimum AoA the bracket is almost below, out of sight, any slight maneuvring puts it out of sight in my setup. I don't recall what the Optimum AoA angle was. Flying the airspeed at whatever the Opt AoA is at the time is not quite the same. I'm not talking about flying an air force approach but a Navy style Optimum AoA approach. At the time of BETA testing some discussion on this was at Dino's website.
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Re: UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 03:12:56 am »
Another online website has an F-35C 'Carrier Approach' Simulator Video. Here
is the text and URL:

F35 Lightning II Fighter Jet video - Posted by Rhiain Morgan on Tue 13 Sep
2011

"Top gun trainer for F35 Lightning ii fighter jet and helmet

http://www.t3.com/feature/f35-lightning-ii-fighter-jet-video?ns_campaign=features&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=t3&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

Maker of all things military, BAE Systems, has created the ultimate simulator for Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Lightning II, the next-gen stealth fighter that will be the RAF’s main weapon within the next decade and we were let into the defence inner circle for a closer look.

The sim uses six projectors to produce a panoramic 180-degree screen, helping pilots perfect such essentials as landing on a carrier deck in a storm, dog-fighting and nailing the ultimate loop.

We went along to the simulator’s base in Warton, Lancashire, for a test
drive. Watch the video to find out how we got on."
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Re: UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 06:54:46 pm »
Awesome last video - thanks Spaz :)

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Re: UK/RN Flight Sim HUD View F-35C Carrier Landing Video
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2011, 12:17:39 am »
Relevant 17 second Video Snippet (zipped) for F-35C Carrier Landing from above T3 video (quality necessarily low due attachment file size limit of 4Mb).
« Last Edit: September 16, 2011, 12:50:10 am by SpazSinbad »
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