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chriscp

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eSellerate error - 25007 machine mismatch
« on: February 19, 2011, 03:28:53 pm »
Hello,
When launching FS9, I get several times the message:
“eSellerate error – 25007 machine mismatch”

I have to explain what is my problem.

My hard drive n° 1 is configured with two partitions:

C:\ containing all my system (Windows XP Pro, Documents and Settings, Program Files and some others directories.
15 Go large and only 10 Go used.

D:\ 180 Go large,  only 120 Go used containing my FS9 (90 Go) and 30 Go for videos programs, scaner etc...

K:\ 80 Go large, reserved for a future Windows7 Pro   

First of all i must say that i am able to restore C:\ in five mns maxi using Norton Ghost launched under DOS, booting on a diskette.
I can do that with any of my image i store on an external drive in FAT 32.

A)
I changed my hard drive n° 1 (150 Go WD Raptor 10000 rpm)   
for a 300 Go WD Velociraptor 10000 rpm.
I made three partitions C:\  D:\  K:\ using Partition Magic launched under DOS, booting on a diskette.

Then i restore C:\ with my Ghost image n° 87
I also restore D:\ with an external backup.

So the only change was only the hardware component 
300 Go WD Velociraptor 10000 rpm.

When I launched FS9, i got the message
 “eSellerate error – 25007 machine mismatch”

My Cloud9 sceneries (EHAM, ENBR,KDCA,KLAX)
and my FSDreamteam ones (KDFW, KFLL, KFFK, KLAS, KORD,
LSGG, LSZH, PHNL) were reactivated one by one.
I backup the new reg keys i was provided.
After that everything was working fine.

Does it count for a real activation ?
Then i made a new C:\ image (Ghost image n° 88)

B)
I installed Windows 7 on K:\ with dual boot created on C:\
Having problems, I stopped the install, got C:\ problem and after a bad C:\ reformat, partition C:\ was destroyed.
I created a new one with Partition Magic (as before), restore
C:\ with my Ghost image n° 88 and reformat K for future Windows 7
reinstall.

When launching FS9, i got same eSellerate error again
Remember, Ghost image 88 was made after the reactivation of all my Cloud9 and FSDreamteam sceneries.

What is the trouble ? Do not tell me that recreating partition C:\
is a major hardware component...

After reactivation of the sceneries  (Does it count again  for a real activation ?)

So i made a new C:\ image (Ghost image n° 89)

C)
Yesterday I restore my Ghost image n° 89.
I installed SP3 and Internet Explorer 8 on my Windows XP.
I reinstall Windows Seven on K:\ with a dual boot on C:\

I made a new C:\ image (Ghost image n° 90)
and a Ghost image n° 1 for K:\

After that I launched FS9.
Guess what ?

eSellerate error – 25007 machine mismatch ???

I cancelled FS9, not reactivating sceneries for a third time.

I got an idea and restore my Ghost image n° 89
I launched FS9
I did not get the eSellerate error

So it is obvious that some change i did before creating my Ghost image 90 is considered as a major hardware component.

Remember, i only updated XP with SP3 and IE8 and
I installed Windows 7 on K:\ and a dual boot was written on C:\

NO HARDWARE CHANGE !!!

I read on the forum this morning, trying to find a topic about
similar problem.

Here is what i read:

isn't a CPU-upgrade always regarded as a 'major hardware-upgrade'?

Usually yes, but overclock is a bit of a special case, the bios shouldn't report a totally different cpu model, I guess at least some data should stay the same, thus counting as minor.

I think bioses reporting a whole different CPU when overclocking and consuming activations should be very rare, because we don't have that many reactivation requests when going over 6, considering how popular overclock is.


   

User controlled Deactivation
With this option, you'll be able to remove an existing activation for a computer, without having to contact us. Very useful in case you are planning to upgrade your system with major hardware components, with  reinstall Windows from scratch, or buy an entirely new PC.


How can you use controlled deactivation when your PC get a scratch ?
If it is possible, learn me about computers... ::)


What is considered as a major hardware components ?
Only hardware or software too ?

Waiting for an answer which explains me what is happening
and if it costs me 2 activations more and if will cost me one more
when i will restore my Ghost image n° 90

Best regards

Christian

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Re: eSellerate error - 25007 machine mismatch
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 06:46:05 pm »
The boot disk is considered a major hardware component so, if you keep swapping hard disks, it will consider as a major hardware change.

To use the new user-controlled Deactivation, as explained on the forum thread and on the email we sent to every forum user, you need use the current version of the Addon Manager, which has a "Deactivate" option.

You have to select it BEFORE doing the hardware upgrade so, it will remove the activation for an older hardware you intend to replace which means, when you upgrade the hardware and consume an activation, the net amount of remaining activations would be the same as if you never changed the hardware.

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Re: eSellerate error - 25007 machine mismatch
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 08:25:20 pm »
Thanks for your answer but it does not satisfy me enough. Your answer is for for chapter A. OK.     
But ... ;)
In chapter B) i wrote
"What is the trouble ? Do not tell me that recreating partition C:\
is a major hardware component..." :D

and what about chapter C) where i wrote
"I got an idea and restore my Ghost image n° 89
I launched FS9
I did not get the eSellerate error
So it is obvious that some change i did before creating my Ghost image 90 is considered as a major hardware component.
Remember, i only updated XP with SP3 and IE8 and
I installed Windows 7 on K:\ and a dual boot was written on C:\
NO HARDWARE CHANGE !!!"  8)

By the way you do not tell me how many activations i lost and considering I must now accept the new reactivation, it makes a total of 3 reactivations lost. True or not ? ::)

You do not tell me what is considered as a major hardware or software component.

Why eSellerate is using such an anti-piracy system ?  ???
Is  registry control not enough efficient ? You have certainly already hide a lot of information Keys that are impossible to find. ;) I paid for all your sceneries and i get troubles because of these stupid anti-piracy controls. 8)
You certainly know that, despite all these controls, your sceneries were cracked and those who use them  never get any trouble.  8) 8) 8)
Best regards
Christian     


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Re: eSellerate error - 25007 machine mismatch
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 09:14:44 pm »
As I've said, a change in the boot drive, is considered an hardware change.

However, detecting an hardware change, doesn't automatically mean you lose an activation because of that.

When you see that message, the program only need to confirm your order online, but not all hardware changes detected results losing an activation.

In fact, checking your orders and the activation activity in recent time, you got two activations during the last 2 days, but one was flagged as an update, so it's logged, but it doesn't count so, your whole operation has used only 1 activation, not 3 as you thought.

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Why eSellerate is using such an anti-piracy system ?

Because it obviously works very well.

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I paid for all your sceneries and i get troubles because of these stupid anti-piracy controls.

Your only "trouble" was to press OK to confirm the activation.

The procedure you undertook that caused this (repartitioning an hard-drive), was surely way more complex and required quite care, and I really doubt you reinstall a whole OS very frequently.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2011, 10:41:03 pm by virtuali »

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Re: eSellerate error - 25007 machine mismatch
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2011, 10:04:22 pm »
Thanks a lot for your answer.

You say it is sometimes more complex that it would to be...
I totally agree with you.

Regards
Christian