FSX crashinng at any fsdt airport?!?

[seric76]

Hi everybody, recantly I've got a headache, whether any airport I load in few minutes FSX is froze and crashed without any mistake message    , reinstall last kdfw or any airport doesn't help.

[virtuali]

You said "recently". Does this mean they USED to work, and are crashing only now ?

Because, this might be easily caused by problems in one of the AI textures, since AI usually come after a few minutes, and maybe it's an AI that doesn't appear at other places.

[seric76]

Few second exactly when building is loading cause if bglman.dll missing afcad shows properly.

[virtuali]

You haven't replied to my first question: do the sceneries USED to work on your system and is this crash happening only recently ? If they used to work, there might be a conflict with another module that you installed recently.

If this is the case, one can find conflicts between modules this way:

- Open you DLL.XML file with a text editor (eg. Notepad is fine), the file is located at %APPDATA%\Microsoft\FSX

- Look for all the <Disabled>False</Disabled> lines, and change them to <Disabled>True</Disabled>

- Do this for ALL the <Launch.Addon> sections, EXCEPT for the Addon Manager one (bglmanx.dll) and the main section at the top of the file (which would disable the whole XML file so, you shouldn't change it)

- Save the file and exit.

- Do the same for the EXE.XML file, located in the same folder, disable all modules EXCEPT for Couatl (fsdreamteam\couatl.exe)

- Save the file and exit

- Launch FSX and see if it works. If it does, re-enable every module, one by one, check if FSX works, enable another module, and so on, until you find the conflicting one.

[seric76]

Yes it's happened recently here is xml.dll

  <?xml version="1.0" encoding="windows-1252" ?>
- <SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
  <Descr>Launch</Descr>
  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>
- <Launch.Addon>
  <Name>Addon Manager</Name>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
  <Path>bglmanx.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
- <Launch.Addon>
  <Name>FSUIPC 4</Name>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <Path>Modules\FSUIPC4.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
  </SimBase.Document>

here is FSX

[virtuali]

Yes it's happened recently here is xml.dll

Ok, the dll.xml doesn't look to be the issue, we know our module doesn't have any issues with FSUIPC, which is the only other module you have.

What about the EXE.XML ?

Is the Windows crash dialog allowing you to see error details, to see *what's* crashing ? Sorry, but you should probably figure it out this on your own, because I can't read the Windows dialog in russian...

[seric76]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="windows-1252"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
  <Descr>Launch</Descr>
  <Filename>exe.xml</Filename>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>
  <Launch.Addon>
    <Name>Couatl</Name>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
    <Path>fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
</SimBase.Document>

windows offers to reload FSX without mistake info 

[virtuali]

Nothing wrong with the EXE.XML either. Sorry, but without crash details (you really don't have any button to see more info about the crash) it's impossible to understand what the problem is.

The issue is, our modules loads and start to work, as soon as FSX starts so, if they crashes, it should happen as soon FSX starts, not when it finishes loading the airport. This is really the first report we got of this kind of crash, nobody reported something like this before.

Does it happen at *all* FSDT airports ? What happens if you keep the Addon Manager and Couatl module loaded normall, and go to a default airport ?

[seric76]

I'm switch on error message

in russian:

игнатура проблемы:
  Имя события проблемы:   APPCRASH
  Имя приложения:   fsx.exe
  Версия приложения:   10.0.61637.0
  Отметка времени приложения:   46fadb14
  Имя модуля с ошибкой:   MSVCR80.dll
  Версия модуля с ошибкой:   8.0.50727.4927
  Отметка времени модуля с ошибкой:   4a2752ff
  Код исключения:   c0000005
  Смещение исключения:   00050804
  Версия ОС:   6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
  Код языка:   1049

Дополнительные сведения об этой проблеме:
  LCID:   1049

Ознакомьтесь с заявлением о конфиденциальности в Интернете:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0419

Если заявление о конфиденциальности в Интернете недоступно, ознакомьтесь с его локальным вариантом:
  C:\Windows\system32\ru-RU\erofflps.txt
----------------------------------------------------

translate is:
signature problems:
  Name of event of a problem: APPCRASH
  Application name: fsx.exe
  The appendix version: 10.0.61637.0
  Mark of time of the appendix: 46fadb14
  Name of the module with an error: MSVCR80.dll
  The version of the module with an error: 8.0.50727.4927
  Mark of time of the module with an error: 4a2752ff
  Exception code: c0000005
  Exception displacement: 00050804
  OS version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
  Language code: 1049

Additional data on this problem:
  LCID: 1049

Familiarise with the statement for confidentiality on the Internet:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0419

If the statement for confidentiality on the Internet is inaccessible, familiarise with his local variant:
  C:\Windows\system32\ru-RU\erofflps.txt

and next was follow

The problem signature:
  Name of event of a problem: APPCRASH
  Application name: couatl.exe
  The appendix version: 1.0.0.1024
  Mark of time of the appendix: 4c767b4a
  Name of the module with an error: MSVCR80.dll
  The version of the module with an error: 8.0.50727.4927
  Mark of time of the module with an error: 4a2752ff
  Exception code: 40000015
  Exception displacement: 000046b4
  OS version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
  Language code: 1049
  Additional data 1: f078
  Additional data 2: f078a0987fb7a026c58eaedc3bbe1cf5
  Additional data 3: 5fc1
  Additional data 4: 5fc1dbe9530f959ec47536eb384b9a5b

Familiarise with the statement for confidentiality on the Internet:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0419

If the statement for confidentiality on the Internet is inaccessible, familiarise with his local variant:
  C:\Windows\system32\ru-RU\erofflps.txt

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at other airport all work normaly

[virtuali]

Ok, that's more useful, it looks like that what has crashed, is your Visual C++ 2005 runtimes. I see you are using a newer version than the one the Addon Manager comes with, but is not the latest one.

And, there's a know issue that, some releases of the MS Visual Studio 2008 runtimes, break the 2005 version (which is the one FSX comes with), because the msvcr80.dll that comes with them is bugged. I think PMDG installs the 2008 runtimes.

Try this:

- Go into the Windows Control panel, select the option to Uninstall programs, and look for ALL istances of the MS Visual Studio redistributable runtimes, both 2005 and 2008 (if you have 2008). Remove them all.

Then, reinstall any of our sceneries (doesn't matter which one), and check the crash goes away.

[seric76]

Thanks virtuali but the error doesn't go away I'm gonna reinstall about 50Gb of my simX