Author Topic: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem  (Read 167463 times)

virtuali

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52027
    • VIRTUALI Sagl
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #555 on: February 26, 2025, 10:22:12 pm »
Ok so how would I be able to do this because I’m completely confused.

The Sticky post in this very thread, which has instruction to do exactly that: enable logging when the program doesn't even start. Which of course is a repetition of a chapter in the manual named exactly in the same way, Page 38 of the manua.

theon12455

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 3
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #556 on: February 27, 2025, 12:45:49 am »
is this what you need???

MiyoKat

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #557 on: February 27, 2025, 12:54:30 pm »
I am having issue with my GSX cant load. I have attached the files. Thanks.

ayayapilot

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #558 on: February 28, 2025, 06:26:38 pm »
After update to the latest version cannot use anymore, but previous version works fine, followed the instructions put the addon manager folder into exception and turn off all firewalls and antivirus to reinstall again still cannot use.

virtuali

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52027
    • VIRTUALI Sagl
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #559 on: March 11, 2025, 05:54:15 pm »
attached are the error files with the log file.

You haven't attached the log file, you attached the .err file which is not detailed enough to understand the problem. Also, you attached two copies of the Couatl_MSFS.INI, one with logging enabled another one with logging disabled.

Only use a single copy, with logging enabled, and don't attach it. If you edited the file correctly, you MUST have a Couatl.LOG file in the %APPDATA% folder.

If you are absolutely sure you have enabled logging, and no Couatl.LOG file is created, it means the program hasn't even started, and this is almost invariably caused by the antivirus so, be sure the whole Addon Manager folder is added to the Antivirus EXCLUSIONS.

MiyoKat

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #560 on: March 13, 2025, 09:55:00 am »
attached are the error files with the log file.

You haven't attached the log file, you attached the .err file which is not detailed enough to understand the problem. Also, you attached two copies of the Couatl_MSFS.INI, one with logging enabled another one with logging disabled.

Only use a single copy, with logging enabled, and don't attach it. If you edited the file correctly, you MUST have a Couatl.LOG file in the %APPDATA% folder.

If you are absolutely sure you have enabled logging, and no Couatl.LOG file is created, it means the program hasn't even started, and this is almost invariably caused by the antivirus so, be sure the whole Addon Manager folder is added to the Antivirus EXCLUSIONS.

Have you check mine?

pasquale78

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #561 on: March 14, 2025, 06:46:47 pm »
good evening everyone I activated the coautl log correctly and it is attached.
from what I read it seems that it wants to connect to 2 simconnect.
I await a precise answer. thanks

alirayzaw

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #562 on: March 18, 2025, 01:21:05 pm »
I went through all 38 pages of the forum and did everything I could to open the main GSX menu in the sim, but luck just wasn’t on my side. I reinstalled it from scratch a few times, tested the offline installer, and gave admin access to every GSX executable file I could find, but nothing worked.


« Last Edit: March 18, 2025, 01:25:26 pm by alirayzaw »

virtuali

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52027
    • VIRTUALI Sagl
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #563 on: March 18, 2025, 02:34:30 pm »
As I already replied to you on the MSFS forum:

There wasn't any need to scroll those 38 pages. The GSX manual has a chapter dedicated to exactly that problem, named **GSX Toolbar menu stuck on Loading** at Page 97. There, you'll find all possible reasons and all know solutions to it.

However, to fully understand it, I suggest reading the main Troubleshooting chapter in the manual, which starts at Page 95 and covers all cases where the problem is related to the Couatl engine not started.

I'll add a few clarifications that are not entirely clear in the manual:

- When you just performed an update, the program needs to create its own objects cache, and this process can take (varies a lot depending on your system speed, how many add-ons you have, the antivirus not correctly configured, etc.) from 20-30 seconds up to a minute or so.  This means, if you apply one of the suggestions found at Page 97 of the manual, which is to Restart the Couatl engine, if you are doing it during the first startup after an update, you are likely stopping the cache rebuild process, will restart again, and again, because you are restarting it too quickly before giving it a chance to complete. So, the 10-15 seconds of waiting time between restarts suggested at Page 97 of the manual, might need to be increased to up to a minute during the first restart after an update.

- In some cases, when you exceed the maximum limit of Simobjects in the sim, the whole Simconnect engine might break up, so the menu won't come, because the simulator simply stopped to call GSX. Because this is what is **really** happening when GSX "fails" to load the menu. Is not failing anything: it's just *waiting* for the simulator to call it back, because if the simulator won't call us back anymore, nothing will work so, it would be completely useless to show you a menu that will never work anyway so, at least, without the menu, you *know* if there's a problem, but if we let the menu show up without the sim ever calling us back, you might assume "GSX is bugged", because you would see a menu that won't do anything, because the simulator stopped talking to us, so it will surely not accept any commands.

As a general rule:

- If something CAN be fixed by restarting the Couatl engine, we would want to be notified by it, because it's *likely* something we CAN fix.

- If something CANNOT be fixed by restarting the Couatl engine, and it gets automatically fixed by restarting the sim, it's NOT something we can do anything about it, it's just a bug of the sim or a problem of so many objects and/or so many add-ons, that the whole Simconnect connection went broke and simply stopped to connect with us, so it's not something we can do anything about it.

According to your log, the Couatl engine and GSX started fine, and there are no errors reported so, your problem doesn't have anything to do with this thread, which is how to troubleshoot the Couatl engine hasn't started, which is not your case.

Instead, since your log doesn't show any errors, you are likely in the simple "just wait more between restarts" covered in the manual at Page 97.

If it doesn't work even after performing a restart and waiting long enough, you are in the 2nd "Simconnect stuck" case of my previous sentence: where the sim is not even calling us anymore, so you might try restarting the sim or restarting Windows. If it IS fixed by doing that, you can be SURE the problem doesn't have anything to do with GSX and, instead, is caused by one of the reasons I just explained as cause of that problem (too many Simobjects, too many add-ons sending too many commands to the sim, or just simulator bug)

cdleo22

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 76
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #564 on: March 19, 2025, 12:51:19 am »
I have a log file

virtuali

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52027
    • VIRTUALI Sagl
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #565 on: March 19, 2025, 02:16:32 pm »
I have a log file

Your problem doesn't have anything to do with this thread, which is only related to troubleshooting the problem of the Couatl engine not even starting. Your problem has been already discussed and solved here:

https://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,32948.msg207236.html#msg207236

pasquale78

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 6
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #566 on: March 19, 2025, 09:07:43 pm »
I did everything written in the manual from page 95 to page 97. deactivated antivirus updated to 3.3.8, but my problem is not solved. the coautl starts but it remains as in the image and in the community I only have this in the photo.
how do you solve the problem?

Blaster254

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 47
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #567 on: March 22, 2025, 09:02:35 am »
Are there any fixes imminent for version 3.3.8 yet? If not can we have a roll back to 3.3.7 until its fixed, as its currently unusable

virtuali

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52027
    • VIRTUALI Sagl
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #568 on: March 23, 2025, 12:24:52 am »
I did everything written in the manual from page 95 to page 97. deactivated antivirus updated to 3.3.8, but my problem is not solved. the coautl starts but it remains as in the image and in the community I only have this in the photo.
how do you solve the problem?

Impossible to say without a startup log, which is what is discussed in this thread.

grayal

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: Couatl engine hasn't started - How to report a problem
« Reply #569 on: March 23, 2025, 12:46:02 am »
But there are numerous pages of people in that thread who have used the offline installer and this did not fix the problem myself included. The MSFS2024 update from yesterday screwed everything up. I have reinstalled EVERYTHING i have for the sim and this problem seems to be linked to the INIBUILDS a350. Umberto has not posted in that thread for some time.

THIS IS IN NO WAY INTENDED TO CALL FSDREAMTEAM OUT. I know you are busy .
« Last Edit: March 23, 2025, 01:00:32 am by virtuali »