CArrier Landings

[SpazSinbad]

As you can guess I'm new to FSX - particularly Accelerator - with the great Hornet. Once I discovered here that having the hook down stopped that STUPID cycling ON/OFF of the AoA indexer I was pleased as punch with the sim Hornet. Great work. I digress. Today discovered some good explanatory LSO videos at: http://www.topgunsim.com/tgssite/Videos.aspx The titles of videos explain content. They are good value.

I'm still working on making a 'Hornet only' (with some A4G / other USN aircraft content) "How to Deck Land" PDF - trying to make it small and with appropriate content.

[jimi08]

Hey guys,

We have just made a tutorial on the proper techniques of Carrier Landings.  Here are three places to check it out:

-On our website:  http://fsxblueangels.com/videoscreen%20ok3.html

-On Vimeo (better quality): 

-Download:  http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7UQJCCZA

Hope it helps and answers some of the questions posted here.  Good Luck!

-Jimi

[SpazSinbad]

jimi08, Thanks for the terrific video. Well done. I'm needing to view it a few times to take it all in. Very well made and informative video. Nice. 

[Razgriz]

Wow Jimi, thank you SO MUCH!  I never knew that there was a set AOA for it and this should help me LOADS!

[jimi08]

Thanks alot guys.

[burner12]

Thanks guys. This video really helps. Now when I fly those Snodgrass missions he created I'm getting better. It'll take time but I'll be much better now that i know the specs for an FSX carrier landing. I wonder how they got those different views from the lso screen, behind the nose gear the back of the plane and the ball itself?

You know what would make it even more challenging is if you could and movement to the ship so it's rockin' n' rollin'.

You know in the video it said to only go to MILITARY power (w/out burner). But when I look at some Naval Aviation pics I seee Hornets in burner which is past MILITARY power. I wonder why they went to burner and not MILITARY power. Now I do know the F-14A had to take off in Burner . I don't know about the Hornet though?

[SpazSinbad]

burner12 (apt): According to 'Super Hornet' NATOPS the pilot has discretion for Bolter / WaveOff which will include Arrest (because A/C might Bolter) the MIL power is standard with MAX power at pilot discretion. See NATOPS carrier landing diagram page 1 of this thread. Apparently pilot can - in error - go to burner.

[burner12]

burner12 (apt):Apparently pilot can - in error - go to burner.

When you say in error do you mean accidently moving th throttle fully forward? But what I meant was not wave offs or bolters but during a launch sequence i see alot of night pics at burner and day at burner and notmilitary power, why?

[micro]

You know in the video it said to only go to MILITARY power (w/out burner). But when I look at some Naval Aviation pics I seee Hornets in burner which is past MILITARY power. I wonder why they went to burner and not MILITARY power. Now I do know the F-14A had to take off in Burner . I don't know about the Hornet though?

You Have to think about the mission at hand, and the weight of the aircraft.

-If you are headed out for a normal flight, you're going to have a lot of gas and stores (you're heavy). You're also going to be pulling the gear and flaps up after launch so you don't need to worry about max speeds. So going into burner is acceptable and preferred in this case.

-If you're going to be staying in the pattern, you're not going to have much gas, and there's no need for weapons (you're light). You're also going to be leaving the gear and flaps down, and are going to try to keep it below 200 kts. If you go into burner in this situation you might exceed max speeds pretty quick. Not to mention that you're wasting what little gas you have onboard.

Hope that helps.

[SpazSinbad]

burner12: Yes, for the reason described above by 'microbrewst' very well (about fuel burn in the carrier landing pattern) it is not a good idea to 'go burner' if the aircraft is deemed to be flying OK. However there might be circumstances where using the burner is appropriate due to special conditions. A wire break might be one such emergency for example. Apparently it is easy for some to go into burner instead of mil power by mistake. I have not flown a Hornet to know - sorry. :-) Pics from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailhook"

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[burner12]

You Have to think about the mission at hand, and the weight of the aircraft.

-If you are headed out for a normal flight, you're going to have a lot of gas and stores (you're heavy). You're also going to be pulling the gear and flaps up after launch so you don't need to worry about max speeds. So going into burner is acceptable and preferred in this case.

-If you're going to be staying in the pattern, you're not going to have much gas, and there's no need for weapons (you're light). You're also going to be leaving the gear and flaps down, and are going to try to keep it below 200 kts. If you go into burner in this situation you might exceed max speeds pretty quick. Not to mention that you're wasting what little gas you have onboard.

Hope that helps.
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You know being an aviation enthusiast myself I should have thougt of  that. Thanks for reminding me. I don't know why that didn't come across my mind, thanks micro.

[vortex_25]

GREAT video by the FSX Blue Angels.

One question tho, how did they get all those awesome external views?

[burner12]

that's what i'm wondering?

[jimi08]

There are ways to create new views via the camera config file.  If you have the Deluxe Version of FSX, it contains the Software Developer's Kit or SDK, that shows you how to create new camera views as well as many other things.

-Jimi

[vortex_25]

Any chance we can get the tweaked camera.cfg file uploaded somewhere?