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pierre789

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Problem with GSX Airport Cache
« on: April 28, 2014, 02:14:40 pm »
Hi
Every time I load or delete an airport, or any AFCAD file, in FSX, I have the GSX message : "regenerating airport cache", during more than 5'...
I saw in the forum that it wasn't normal, so I suppose there are some corrupted in my installation.
So, here is my last coatl log file :

couatl v2.0 (build 2358)
log started on Mon Apr 28 12:35:39 2014

connecting to SimConnect...
connected to FSX
bglmanx non ready yet, waiting.
connected to bglmanx
Loading addons
requesting AddOn list to bglmanx
bglmanx list contains 20 AddOn(s)
Loading addon OHareX
Addon OHareX not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KDFW
Addon KDFW not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon LSGG
Addon LSGG not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon GSX
Initializing audio...
Available devices:
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  Sortie numérique (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio) (536f72746965206e756de972697175652028536f756e644d415820496e7465677261746564204469676974616c20484420417564696f29)
Detected failed previous attempt to use device 'Haut-parleurs (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)', device will be ignored
Created OpenAL device: Generic Software on Haut-parleurs (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)

Device info:
   Major version: 1
   Minor version: 1
   Frequency: 44100
   Refresh: 40
   Sync: 0
   Mono sources: 255
   Stereo sources: 1
   Extensions: ALC_ENUMERATE_ALL_EXT ALC_ENUMERATION_EXT ALC_EXT_CAPTURE ALC_EXT_EFX

Context info:
   Vendor: Creative Labs Inc.
   Version: 1.1
   Renderer: Software
   Extensions: EAX EAX2.0 EAX3.0 EAX4.0 EAX5.0 EAX3.0EMULATED EAX4.0EMULATED AL_EXT_OFFSET AL_EXT_LINEAR_DISTANCE AL_EXT_EXPONENT_DISTANCE

Using EFX 1.0 extension, with 1 auxiliary send(s)
Using EAX reverb
Current sim directory is C:/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Games/Microsoft Flight Simulator X
Looking for scenery.cfg in C:/ProgramData/Microsoft/FSX/scenery.cfg
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Airport cache not valid: scenery.cfg has changed since last time
Regenerating airport cache, looking for scenery files under C:/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Games/Microsoft Flight Simulator X/
Worker thread started
Addon GSX loaded
Loading addon HAWAII1
Addon HAWAII1 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon HAWAII2
Addon HAWAII2 not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon PHNL
Addon PHNL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
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Addon JFK not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon JFK2
Addon JFK2 loaded
Loading addon KFLL
Addon KFLL not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAS
Addon KLAS not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Loading addon KLAX
Addon KLAX loaded
Loading addon ParkMe
Addon ParkMe loaded
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Addon CYVR not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
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Addon KIAD not installed or missing one or more files, skipping
Starting system monitors
Current locale is French_France.1252
SharedMemInterface connected
Loading aircraft data from Airplanes\C172
aircraftDb.py provides aircraft data with priority 2
Using aircraft data from aircraftDb.py
Section [contact_points] contains invalid data at entry point.4
Airport cache regeneration warnings:
Warning: airport LOAN described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Warning: airport F45 described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Warning: airport NRC described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Airport cache regeneration completed with success in 91 seconds
Loading airport KSEA from C:/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Games/Microsoft Flight Simulator X/MyTraffic/scenery/BR2_KSEA.BGL
Customization file C:\Users\Pierre\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali\GSX\ksea-ealgkw.ini ignored: AFCAD file doesn't match afcad_path entry

There are some warnings, but I don't know where these files are.
Could you help me ?

Thank you

Pierre

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Re: Problem with GSX Airport Cache
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 03:13:07 pm »
Every time I load or delete an airport, or any AFCAD file, in FSX, I have the GSX message : "regenerating airport cache", during more than 5'.. I saw in the forum that it wasn't normal, so I suppose there are some corrupted in my installation So, here is my last coatl log file :

There's nothing corrupted in your installation, if you mean your GSX installation. The problems seems to be caused by some external add-ons:

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Airport cache not valid: scenery.cfg has changed since last time

This might be or not a problem, depending if you REALLY changed your scenery.cfg or not since the last time you ran FSX. If you haven't changed anything ( you haven't installed a new scenery and you haven't changed the Scenery Library in FSX ), and you keep seeing this message in the log file at every startup, it's possible the problem is caused by another add-on product that is constantly changing the scenery.cfg. We heard of some external ATC utilities that do that, because the create modified AFCADs on the fly.

If another add-on is keep changing the scenery.cfg, you WILL have GSX regenerating its cache but, it SHOULD be a very fast process, unless that external add-on is changing LOTS of files.

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Airport cache regeneration warnings:
Warning: airport LOAN described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Warning: airport F45 described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Warning: airport NRC described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record

These are not serious problems, but are not the cause of the cache regeneration themselves, they only indicate that you have some AFCADs that only "add" to an existing airport, without replacing it. They won't really affect GSX, but if you have GSX not working well at one of those airports, you would have an indication where to look for ( it might be an error by the scenery designer, or it might be made on purpose ), that's why they are labeled as warnings, NOT errors.

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Airport cache regeneration completed with success in 91 seconds

That's a bit too much, so it seems the other add-on that is changing your scenery.cfg, is affecting many files.

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Loading airport KSEA from C:/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Games/Microsoft Flight Simulator X/MyTraffic/scenery/BR2_KSEA.BGL
Customization file C:\Users\Pierre\AppData\Roaming\Virtuali\GSX\ksea-ealgkw.ini ignored: AFCAD file doesn't match afcad_path entry

This is an entirely different warning, which doesn't have any relationship to your issue. It's simply telling you that the GSX airport customization file you made for KSEA will not be used, because you are now using a different AFCAD compared to the one you used when you made that customization.

This is an indication that you should do one of the following:

1) Restore the original AFCAD you were using when you made that customization, so your customization will work again. This can be done by removing the MyTraffic AFCAD.

OR

2) Create a new customization file for KSEA now, with the AFCAD coming from MyTraffic as the active one

OR

3) Change the pathname in the afcad_path line in your %APPDATA%\Virtuali\GSX\ksea-ealgkw.ini file, to match the MyTraffic AFCAD name. This MIGHT work well or not, depending if the MyTraffic BGL has the same parking names as the original one. Impossible to say without trying, but if it works, it will save you from having to redo your customization from scratch.

OR

4) Do nothing, and just use GSX without any customization at KSEA.

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Re: Problem with GSX Airport Cache
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 04:20:41 pm »
.. the regenerating doesn't occur every time I load FSX, but only if I have changed an airport.bgl file, or a scenery with some airports.
The problem being that I use to manage the airports sceneries or landscapes, to facilitate the processor work during the flights, and to prevent files of becoming too large, so I frequently add or delete some airports or scenaries when I arrive or leave an area.
When I change a lot of things, I understand that GSX has to regenerate the cache, the problem is that this process is always very long, 4 to 5', even if the change concerns a very small bgl file !
Concerning the KSEA problem, I will look for the best of your solutions.
Many thanks
Pierre

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Re: Problem with GSX Airport Cache
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 06:37:13 pm »
... the regenerating doesn't occur every time I load FSX, but only if I have changed an airport.bgl file, or a scenery with some airports.

That's entirely normal, then.

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The problem being that I use to manage the airports sceneries or landscapes, to facilitate the processor work during the flights, and to prevent files of becoming too large, so I frequently add or delete some airports or scenaries when I arrive or leave an area.

Ok, so it wasn't an external product, it was just you editing the Scenery Library.

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When I change a lot of things, I understand that GSX has to regenerate the cache, the problem is that this process is always very long, 4 to 5', even if the change concerns a very small bgl file !

It's not just GSX that has to regenerate its cache, it's FSX too! You would have had exactly the same problem even if you didn't had GSX. But GSX must first wait for FSX to end regenerating its cache, before it can *start* regenerating its own.

According to your own log, the GSX cache regeneration took exactly 91 seconds so, if it's really 4-5 minutes, then the rest is taken by FSX so, the problem would have been there exactly the same ( minus the 90 seconds taken by GSX ), if there wasn't any GSX to begin with.

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Re: Problem with GSX Airport Cache
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2014, 05:14:47 pm »
I had this also:

Warning: airport LOAN described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Warning: airport F45 described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Warning: airport NRC described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record

I posted on MyTraffic forum:

MT ver 54c FSX multiple BGL files
 http://forum.simflight.com/topic/78186-mt-ver-54c-fsx-multiple-bgl-files/#entry474208


And it was fixed and there is a zip file to download with the fixed files.
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Vaughan Martell

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Re: Problem with GSX Airport Cache
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 10:11:14 pm »
Warning: airport LOAN described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Warning: airport F45 described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record
Warning: airport NRC described in multiple BGL files without proper DeleteAirport record

And I already replied to you about this message too, see by above reply, it's not a serious error, and it might (or not) be done on purpose by the scenery designer, for example to provide just an enhancement to a default AFCAD.

While this is supported by FSX, GSX requires an AFCAD to be entirely self contained, but since it cannot obviously know if the DeleteAirport records are missing on purpose or are just a bug, it gives you that warning, which won't cause any problems as such, it's just to letting you know that, if you have a problem on an airport, it MIGHT be related to that.

In this case, it seems they were missing because of a bug.

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Re: Problem with GSX Airport Cache
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2014, 10:14:03 pm »
Ok,

Thanks for the additional information.

Have a good day.
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Vaughan Martell